Men cannot invest their egos in a gynocentric and sex-centric social system that rejects them out of hand.
Readership: All
Theme: Cultural Demise
Author’s Note: This post contains a number of comments from Thedeti under The Next Step (2023/8/4). Used with his permission.
Length: 1,700 words
Reading Time: 9 minutes
Introduction
Jack’s post, The Next Step (2023/8/4), described how lust and P00nani pedestalization continues to be a central defining feature of the Men’s sphere. The same post also reviewed how Casey Zander is kicking around the idea of forsaking this path and possibly going the way of Roosh.* Zander deleted a recent video conveying his sentiments about this, so he seems to be waffling on this decision. I would guess that Zander is now discovering what Roosh discovered when he became a Christian in 2019 — that when he abandons the idolatry of the lust for p00n, he loses the monetary support of his massive crowd of idolatrous followers.
* It has been observed for some time in the Manosphere, that many of those men who were previously Players / PUAs / Relationship Gurus came to God over the course of time. (Jack wrote about this phenomenon in a post earlier this year.)
Zander’s Omissions
Zander’s angle is that he is a HVM talking about an average woman’s response to a HVM, which in women’s eyes, is getting to be around 5% of the male population these days. Even so, in 2023 America, average women get high quality c0ck thrown at them every day of the week, and many if not most of them are going to sample that from time to time. Around 30% of women are going to go shag wild on it.
But let’s face it. If you’re a man watching Zander’s videos, you’re among the 95% of men who have trouble with women.
If you’re a man hanging around the Manosphere in 2023, the chances are worth betting on that you are Not Hot.
In fact, most of the reason the Manosphere exists is because generally, the men who come here for help have never been Hot; or they used to be Hot but became Not Hot.
With respect to his audience, Zander has committed a glaring omission of the intersexual dynamics that must necessarily transpire for any of his advice to work for the average man:
- A man has to have charisma, confidence, Game, LAMPS, etc. and he has to looksmaxx.
- She has to notice it.
- She has to like it.
- She has to come away with the impression of thinking he’s Hot.
- She has to want him so badly that she’s inadvertently signaling IOIs. (Women will never tell a man they’re interested.)
- The man has to read her IOIs to know she thinks he is Hot (and women intentionally try to hide this).
Then and only then can you go into all the whiteboard stuff of making her qualify for you and making her earn sex from you.
But if a man can’t run through all 6 steps and follow up on it, then absolutely none of this matters. Most men can’t even do step 1.
Zander’s advice only works “IF She Thinks You’re Hot.”
Absolutely none of Zander’s advice abrogates the rule of “…IF she thinks you’re hot.”
IF she doesn’t think you’re Hot, absolutely none of this matters.
IF she doesn’t WANT to qualify or earn you, then not one bit of that video means anything. If you are not hot, you can’t make a girl earn sex from you. You cannot make a girl earn anything from you if you’re not hot.
NONE of this will get you anywhere unless you have something she wants — and money and a good job and a winning personality are not it. She has her own money and her own “job”, and she can meet men with “winning personalities”** everywhere.
** To women, a “winning personality” has nothing to do with personality. To women, any charismatic hot guy has a “winning personality”.
Categories
Here’s the thing that Zander would never say, because it would cost him 95+% of his followers. It’s essentially the truth of the Black Pill.
A single man in 2023 falls into one of the following categories, with respect to the SMP/MMP.
- You are HAWT.
- You are able to Get Hot if you go to the gym, looksmaxx, work hard, etc.
- You will never ever be able to Get Hot and you know it.
If you’re in category (1), you’re probably too busy splitting thatch to waste time reading blogs and watching videos.
If you’re in category (2), and you’re unable or unwilling to do the work necessary to get on the feminine radar, then you need to forget about women.
If you’re in category (3) — you cannot be Hot, then you need to forget about women forever. If you can’t do that, or if you genuinely feel called to marriage, then maybe you could try the Passport thing, but that opens up a whole different can of worms I won’t go into here, and you shouldn’t set your hopes or break your bank on it.
Pill Philosophies
Now that I’ve covered the basic qualifications, let’s get into the psychological phantoms that lead up to the Black Pill.
Following on the heels of Jack’s post, Men’s Altruistic Idealism in an Age of Apostasy (2023/7/28), Dr. Orion Taraban has just produced a video on how most men are romantics*** at heart. In this video, he unpacks what Rollo introduced to the Red Pill back in 2011, and he gets much closer to the truth than grifter Zander.
At 2:22, he says,
“The most common male romantic belief is, “I can be loved for who I am.” That’s it!”
At 5:00, he says,
“Men have to provide value in order to secure mating and dating opportunities. If you can accept the truth of this one statement, then everything else that I’ve been talking about with respect to the behavioral economics of relationships starts to make sense. It is essentially the Red Pill in one sentence. On the other hand, the Blue Pill is the fundamentally romantic ideology that “I can be loved for who I am, that my loyalty and my virtue and my love can and should be enough to satisfy a woman.” It’s not.”
Taraban doesn’t mention the core of Black Pill thinking, but I’ll get to that in the conclusions.
*** To women, being “romantic” has nothing to do with romance. To women, a tall, hot, charismatic guy with some Game and some money is “romantic”.
Taraban’s Omissions
What Taraban doesn’t spell out is that “value” is relative to what a particular woman wants or needs. This hearkens back to why Game works, and AF/BB — Seed or Greed.
If you want a woman to want sex from you, then the only way to provide “value” (in her eyes) is to be HOT.
If you are Not Hot and a woman is making herself unavoidable or trying to qualify herself to you, it is probably because she wants / needs your resources. You’re a beta provider and that is the best you will ever be. And she will treat you as such, usually because she has issues of her own that have nothing to do with you.
If you happen to be Not Hot and loaded with $$$, then you’d better watch yourself at all times. There are millions of women planning and scheming to fleece you of everything they can get.
The way it is, a woman who doesn’t have a perpetually damp muff for you will walk all over you with continual disrespect and intransigence because of her natural female narcissism that couldn’t care less about the male point of view. She’ll usually be boiling over with anger and resentment because of her mommy issues and daddy issues, because Chad pumped and dumped her and wouldn’t commit, and because she has to settle for you if she is to have any hope of getting any commitment from any man and the status and resources that will come with it. And she will make you pay dearly for your heinous crimes of Not Being Hot and Being a NonChad.
This is why you must avoid anything with a woman IF you are Not Hot.
Conclusions
In essence, the Black Pill is the realization that a gynocentric and sex-centric society has no place for you in the wet orgasmic folds of its STD infested innards. So if you’re a man who still clings to the romantic notions of the Blue Pill, or even a man who has taken the Red Pill but who still worships P00n, then this will be perceived as a cataclysmic ego crushing rejection.
And here’s the core of Black Pill thinking:
The Black Pill is the fundamentally self-nihilistic philosophy that “I can NEVER be loved for who I am! Relationships are transactional and my social value hangs on what I bring to the table — and… I have nothing to bargain with! The only reason I could have for not going my own way or else giving up on life is if I could somehow develop a masochistic desire to improve myself and then only to be used as a walking ATM success object.”
Jack did a mini-series on the Black Pill back in September 2022 as part of his theme on Redemptive Headship and Masculinity. (See links below under Related.) The running idea behind his posts is that as long as a man laments being rejected from the worldly SMP (e.g. hookup culture), he is (or soon will be) staring into the abyss.
It’s true. But the message that bottom SMV men and Christian Men need to remember is that a man is not defined by his usefulness to women, but to God. A man who has been rejected by this fallen gynocentric world is not necessarily rejected by God. A man is only rejecting himself if he chooses the flesh and/or the World over Christ.
Related
- Σ Frame: Some Advice to Young People looking to Date or Marry (2017/8/10)
- Σ Frame (Thedeti): Deti’s Advice to Underqualified Men (2021/12/8)
- Σ Frame: On Choosing the Flesh over Christ (2022/9/10)
- Σ Frame: The Ever Looming Black Pill (2022/9/12)
- Σ Frame: What is the Black Pill? (2022/9/13)
- Σ Frame: The Black Pill is the Natural Outcome of the Secular Mating Paradigm (2022/9/14)
- Σ Frame: Black Pill Competition (2022/9/15)
- Σ Frame: The Black Pill as a Socio-Sexual Phenomenon (2022/9/17)
