For the HBD crowd, and by that I’m talking about guys like Half Sigma, Cold Equation, OneSTDV and others, crime-particularly those committed by African Americans-is a huge area of concern. Even though by their own oft-repeated admissions, they don’t live near or associate with many, if any, African Americans, still, their overwhelming concern about “Black Crime” is something that is a staple go-to topic of discussion in their haunts on the World Wide Web.
Today’s post for examination, is no different. It’s from Prime’s site, Beta Revolution, and I’ve taken the liberty of posting up in its entirety, his words. Give em a careful read, and I’ll chime back in after he’s done:
“Live Not By Lies; or Educating Obsidian
25 January 2010 12:22 am
From a recent post by OneSTDV entitled “Best” Insults from the Opposition , Obsidian expresses his disdain for the general temper of the post and the practical point of consistently invoking black crime statistics. His comment:
The problem for me isn’t the fact that Black folks commit more crime or a type of crime, but the point that’s being made. I don’t get it. It’s not as if anyone who lives in America doesn’t know this, and even if they didn’t, the fact remains that we lock up more people than places like Russia or China. So offenders, regardless of color, are being dealt with.
If you say the point is that Whites shouldn’t delude themselves about Blacks, my response would be that if residential patterns of the former are any indication, then Whites are quite capable looking out for their best interests, real or perceived.
So again, I really don’t see what practical point there is to be made that “Blacks commit more crime/rape/etc”.
Perhaps you can enlighten me?
Thanks
The Obsidian
Commenter Statsaholic responds dutifully thus,
The point of it is that there has been a massive brainwashing campaign the purpose of which is to stop Whites from discriminating against Blacks as individuals.
While at the same time the Rape Statistics show that a White Female SHOULD be discriminating against individual Black Men (and NOT just crime prone Black Neighborhoods), in terms of viewing each Black Man she encounters as a much greater threat to Rape her.
This makes sense for the exact same statistical reasons that it makes sense for a White Female to view men as a greater threat to Rape her than women, and men in their sexual prime as a greater threat to rape her than old men or little boys.
When you realize how many White Women get themselves raped by Black Men each year, and my calculations indicate that over the next 35 years the average 12 Year Old White Girl will have an incredibly high 1 in 20 chance of being Raped or Sexually Assaulted by a Black by the age of 47, it becomes all too clear that Political Correctness has blinded the eyes of too many White Women to basic prudence.
The only way to wake them up from their stupor is to expose them to the Interracial Rape Statistics.
Back to Obsidian’s original statements. First he states that A) most Americans are aware of the prevalence of black crime. Secondly, B) those who are not aware are protected anyway by the US Government locking up more people than Russia and China (to note the irony of American self-portrayal as freedom-loving). So in light of B , he can conclude that C) “ offenders, regardless of color, are being dealt with.”
Regarding A , in light of a lifetime of experience including hearsay, and even striking the statistics I have been privy to from the record, I would also assert that most American adults are aware of the prevalence of black crime. A short jaunt into your local ghetto will leave one with a sense of pity wrt the lack of upkeep, pride, and value, but it might also leave one with a rock through a windshield, a heaping of boisterous mockery, or at best, an intimidating stare. American adults, glued to the TV news as they are, also imbibe a daily stream of black crime stories. For these reasons do they maintain such “residential patterns,” i.e. live as far away from the ghetto as possible (without giving up too much in the way of convenience to downtown amenities).
One exception to A is with kids. Most white parents teach their kids to be considerate of others, maybe even to be more considerate of nonwhites. They are not yet privy to the “secret knowledge” of the white adult world as to the true rationale behind not living near DeShawn or Latrice. In fact, it could be argued that with Diversity being public education’s Great Commission, the official equality story is just that, a nice story we tell our kids which will one day be found out as false, like with Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy.
Whites, in our deepest heart of hearts, do wish that blacks would not commit so many crimes, that they would not need or take advantage of welfare, that they would not always be the ones needing extra food and gifts at Thanksgiving and Christmas, that they would not be the ones sitting around waiting to be saved in times of crisis. Deep within every white adult’s mind is the knowledge that blacks are not like us, but many of us try to push past it anyways and treat others as we would like to be treated, either because of religious education or native moral judgment. This longing is however met by reality on a daily basis for many so that general equality becomes something more of a spirit that we should all appeal to for our sakes and blacks’.
Regarding B and its conclusion C , I think Obsidian puts his cart before the horse. Let’s look at the argument again:
B. Those who are not aware (of the prevalence of black crime) are protected by the US Government and its locking up of a great many criminal.
C . Following B , offenders of all races receive punishment/incarceration.
In B , we have a hypothetical white character who may not be aware of a certain area’s racial makeup and may therefore be endangering himself. According to Obsidian’s assertion, the US Government protects him from his ignorance by providing a surplus of law enforcement in said area, and if he were to become the victim of a crime, there would be some sort of recompense within the judicial system.
So C , because the black perpetrator of the crime on our white person in the above example has been caught by law enforcement.
But what if the perpetrator is not caught? Or if he is, and is released on a technicality, or skips bail? Remember, I am supposing that the black perpetrator in the example did indeed commit a crime against the white man in the example. Does the white man’s ignorance prove him deserving of said crime? What steps and in what ways could this crime have been prevented? What if the environment had been an upper middle class mall late at night instead of on the outskirts of a ghetto? Is he guilty of ignorance when he is somewhere “he is supposed to be”?
And the big question, if the crime had been a murder-theft, is any recompense possible for the victim’s family and friends? Does the statement “offenders being dealt with” have the sting it did in the above argument?
In this case, the hypothetical white man has become just another statistic–gunned down by a young, black male for the amount of money it might have taken the perp 6 or 7 hours to earn. And he should be known as a statistic so that others be mindful. My point in writing this is that it is necessary to educate, at the very least, those who are interested in the reality of mean differences in criminality, caused by differences in moral judgment, self control, and IQ. It should not be taken for granted that everyone knows to stay clear of ghettoes of whatever color. And even that is not enough because of encroachment.
On top of the freedom to speak the truth regarding crime statistics goes the freedom to discuss possible scenarios leading to the decrease of those crimes in the first place. Many incarcerated individuals are where they are because of drug convictions and domestic issues, and I do not really wish to include these in this post. What I and most white citizens are most concerned about is the random , the so-called senseless tragedy. Someone being somewhere “they are supposed to be” and still getting assaulted, robbed, and/or killed. It is plain to me that it is not specifically random. The control environment was perturbed by an outside variable.”
*Back to Obsidian*: Okay boys and girls, let’s make sure we get this straight:
1. There’s a “mass brainwashing campaign” going on, no doubt masterminded by the Non-Asian Minority Multimedia Industrial Complex, to pull the wool over the eyes of young and otherwise unsuspecting White folks-*especially young White Females*-as to the true nature of Black Crime.
2. That, despite the fact that African Americans make up a larger proportion of those incarcerated, and for longer prison sentences as punishment for their crimes, this is not enough; we simply must make sure that everyone, on the Planet Earth, is made aware of the congenital propensity on the part of anyone with any traces of African DNA that they are much more likely to rob, rape or otherwise maim you.
3. That, despite the fact that Whites clearly have a higher IQ than Blacks, and one would think this would kick in and warn them of wandering into Black ghettos alone at 3AM, we still need a massive multimedia counteroffensive to offset the NAMMMIC’s efforts to pull the wool over the eyes of even ostensibly cognitively superior White folks.
Hmm.
I think the Gents doth protest too much.
I mean, come on-does anyone here really dispute the simple facts on the ground here? As I’ve said above, I’ve never denied the higher crime rates among African Americans in relation to the rest of the country, nor have I ever been against incarcerating said offenders, harshly if need be, depending on the nature of the crimes. And, it has been documented, that since the early 1990s, violent crime of all kinds has actually fallen, and that includes the Black communities in th USA-and this is due to a number of reasons. One of the obvious is because we’ve built more prisons, put more cops on the street, and lengthened prison sentencing. But another reason that may not be so obvious, is because during the vicious Crack Wars of the mid 80s all the way up to the early 2000s, massive numbers of Black Men KILLED EACH OTHER, mainly as a result of warring drug gang and cartel factions duking it out over prized drug selling territory. All of these factors combined to bring violent crime, often drug-related, down in a big way, particularly in Black America-and if anyone doubts that, just ask people living on Bushwick Ave in Brooklyn, or near Z Street in Washington DC, or on the notorious Westside of Baltimore, or Chicago’s Southside, or Detroit’s many troubled areas, of East LA, Watts and Compton in Os Angeles, about what life was like in those times, particularly in the 80s and 90s. By comparison, today is infinitely more safer. And rightly so.
Well Obsidian, the HBDers will say, the media-which is controlled by those dastardly NAMs, mind you-they never talk about what happened in Wichita, KS, or how a bunch of Black Marines killed a White Marine because he dared to date a Sista, or how often White Women are brutally raped by BLACK MEN, so we, we’re doing a valuable service of alerting the public to da truth! Yea, that’s the ticket.
LOL. OK, let’s examine all of that:
For one thing, yes, in a way, you are doing your part to shine a light on these horrific crimes. That’s to be lauded, and one of the great things about our Information Age-you can start up your own media outlet for pennies on the dollar, if that; as we all know, you can start up a blog, for free.
But having said that, what many of you don’t seem to get, is that invariably, the biggest victims of Black Crime, are BLACK PEOPLE. And if you wanna squawk about crimes that go unreported, Man, you ain’t saying nothing but a word. Scores of crimes, from home invasions to rapes to out and out murders, not only go unsolved, they don’t even get ANY time, even on the local news. Two of my own cousins were gunned down in cold blood, with eyewitnesses present, and to this day-coming up on two decades later-no one’s been found. Nor should this come as a surprise to any of you-neither Tupac Shakur’s murderer, or the Notorious B.I.G.’s, have been brought to justice either-and these are Men known, worldwide. While the whole planet was transfixed by news coverage of Natalie Holloway’s disappearance, a young pregnant Woman here in Philly name LaToya Figueroa was brutally murdered by her boyfriend and was only found after a massive outcry on the part of her family members and the general citizenry of the city, demanding that the media show her some love. Once again, what you guys rag on about in the abstract, I and countless other African Americans know in real terms.
And again, no one has ever addressed my main point-that by and large, Whites largely live separate an apart from Blacks. Whether that is right or wrong, good or bad, is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion-the simpl fact of the matter, is that it is, what it is. Even in densely packed urban centers, like here in Philly, or in NYC, it is very possible to be White and make it so that you spend minimal to no time around or among Blacks at all, and especially among those who are most likely to commit the kinds of violent street crimes that so many of you piss on about. Simply put, if you’re White, your chances of being gunned down, over nothing, are far less than mine, someone who’s been shot at, robbed at gunpoint by multiple assailants, and who’s also successfully fought off would be attackers, unarmed and unscathed. All of them, were Black. And truth be told, Black folk are hardly enablers of Black Crime-when Michael Nutter, now current Mayor of Philly, proposed a “Stop & Frisk” measure to interdict gun violence, you wanna take a wild guess as to which part of the voting public overwhelmingly supported the measure? Yup, that’s right you guessed it, BLACK PHILADELPHIANS DID. It was White SWPL folks, who don’t live in North Philly, Southwest Philly (the stickup capital of the world), or parts of South Philly, where the next time you walk outside your door could very well be your last. Black folks living in the hood-good people, who’s only sin is that they’re working class and can’t afford to move out-carry no torches for the criminals in their midst. They want to see them gone, too, which is why Nutter’s Mayor today. When Philly’s SWPLs accused him of “racial profiling” they got laughed down so hard it wasn’t even funny. Oh, and by the way, quiet as its kept, the single biggest group that favored racial profiling of Arab folk after Sep 11? Yup, that’s right, Black folks.
The idea or notion, that African Americans are not only more genetically pre-disposed to commit crime, but are also more likely to condone or endorse it, is just another of the simple ways in which the HBD house of cards tumbles down under its own shoddy construction and flimsy making. Moreover, the facts on the ground that I have spoken to, only goes to show what rank amateurs and fools these guys are. They are so blinded by heir racial animus, so eager to hang every social ill or problem around the necks of “NAMs”, so misinformed and misguided in even the basic facts of the issues, that it is little wonder as to why no self-respecting academic of public official would ever take these guys or their ideas seriously. And that’s a shame, too, because I do believe HBD study could make the world a better place.
But not by using it as a flimsy foil for legitimating one’s racial animus, and stoking the flames of racial discontent.
Fellas, get a cue, huh?
Now adjourn your wannabe, funk the funk Archie Bunker arses…
The Obsidian
