Anoukange wrote an interesting comment in a recent thread -
Ok, maybe we can focus more on solutions instead of finger pointing. You guys write well and thank you for your intelligent and masculine outlook, but how about someone write about what men want and like from women and we mass produce it manifesto form and I’ll throw from the rooftops of NYC and DC to start. I for one am going to start a revolution of anti-feminism and being a woman, I’m quite sure that will make me unpopular in the eyes of my fellow gals. I am willing though. Let’s recover society, let’s swing the pendulum back to the middle and SEEK and FIND balance, eh? Break down wants and needs for sex/relationships/friendship/love/companionship, etc. Players need not contribute due to the temporary nature of their wants but everyone else should.
Predictably, she got a couple of harsh responses, because as Novaseeker put it -
A common progression I have noticed is that the men who first find their way into our communities often have a great deal of anger towards the system, their own situation, perhaps women, and so on. Often this anger is justified. The men in question may be living through the charade of anti-male abuse that passes for “family law” in most of the Anglosphere. Or they may be long-term “involuntary celibates” who feel that the current social set-up leaves them with the short-end of the stick, Game or no Game. In many cases, this anger and resentment is quite visceral, real, and honest. It makes no sense to shove these kinds of raw reactions to the situation we find ourselves in under the rug. That can only lead to dysfunction for us as individuals, and the loss of good men who could otherwise grow and develop in our communities. No, the visceral anger is actually a good thing in that it brings the issues to the surface, forces us to confront the human dimensions of the on-going social catastrophe in the West, and, most importantly, motivates men to come to our communities and learn — which is precisely what we need.
However, regardless of how useful the energy associated with such anger may be for getting men to wake up and become aware of the kind of issues we face, at some stage that underlying energy needs to find both a new basis and a new channel so that men can move from being somewhat angry at the system as a whole towards making changes in their own lives, and those of others, to benefit them in light of the current environment.
What this means, in brass tacks, is simple enough, I think. Our task as men who are engaged in a community that cares about issues pertaining to men is both to provide a refuge for the hot anger of the newcomers as well as the encouragement and direction, at the proper time, to channel that energy into something that is ultimately more productive for their lives and, in the longer term, for our growing men’s awareness communities.
And, in a private communication to the authors Welmer said this -
What we are doing here is building something. This is a fundamentally masculine thing to do. Just as our forefathers built ships that took us across the oceans and rockets that sent men to the moon, we are engaged in a constructive pursuit. It’s time for us to stop and think about what we’re building. What do we really want? Do we have a better alternative to the current mess? I think we do, and it’s time to focus on offering some alternatives.
Women have been recruited as enemies, but if you give the issue some thought it wasn’t necessarily their fault. In their hearts, they just want to do “the right thing,” and that desire has been manipulated by all sorts of people. Women are fundamentally social creatures, and they are in need of direction. We really ought to think about how we can offer them some direction. They crave it so much that if we give them a job they think is worthy, they will take it up with all their feminine passion.
So I’d like our writers to think about the alternatives that can be offered to women. They will need something that fulfills both their social and idealistic needs. Be creative and benevolent in this endeavor.
It sounds like anoukange is asking for exactly that.
The important question is – will any women join her, and if so, how many? Do Western women really want gender peace, or are they quite content with the way things are now?
Maria Shriver has just declared that the gender war is over and that women have won by declaring the US “A Woman’s Nation.” And that is supposedly going to change everything. But, will it? And do women really like the change and want it?
Barack Obama based his 2008 campaign to become the first president of the United States with African heritage on “Hope” and “Change.” And he won. But was it more because people wanted change, or because they wanted hope?
Either way it seems to imply that a lot of people did not like the way things were when they went to the polling places and voted for “hope” and “change.”
So, if that is the case, is what people really want more of the same kind of “change” which led them to the very situation they wanted change from in November 2008?
“When we look back over the 20th Century and try to understand what’s happened to workers and their familes and the challenges they now face, the movement of women out of the home and into paid employment stands out as a unique and powerful transformation.”
- Moms aren’t home all day caring for younger children, yet quality child care and flexible hours at work are in short supply.
- Schools still let kids out in the afternoon, long before the workday ends (oh, horrors, the children get out of their incarceration early)
- And they shut their doors for three months during the summer, even though the majority of families with children are supported by a single working parent or a dual-earning couple. (horrors again, the children might, but only might, get to spend some time outside)
The list goes on and on, but all of these “problematic” issues probably seem less like “problems” to the latchkey kids, the “no-one-at-home” kids, of the last generation, than they look like the source and cause of the problems of family breakdown, and loss of stability, and lots of stress, and parents who are never around. Even less contact with their families probably isn’t really the kind of “change” that is going to have most women cheering.
So, the question remains, do we all just continue to march forward in lockstep, smiling, into this Brave New World that our planners and masters have in mind for us? Do we continue to compete ourselves into being mindless worker drones so that we can afford that even bigger “big screen teevee” while our children are warehoused in sterile detention camps, supervised by the dregs of the education system?
Is the kind of “change” women want for “their” nation?
So, I post to the erudite readers of the Spearhead two questions, and invite a spirited discussion on both.
For the men, anoukange’s question above – which she will print up and throw from the rooftops – What do men want and like from women?
And, for the women – Do you want Gender Peace? Do you want men back as your lovers, husbands, fathers, and perhaps even friends? Are you ready to stop hating us, using us, suing us, stealing our children from us, feeling entitled to support from us, and holding us in complete contempt? If anoukange throws men’s answers to her questions from the rooftops, will you join her and help her? Will you stop indiotically chanting “You GO, GRRL” whenever some woman trashes or burns a man and start thinking about how that man might enrich your life as an ally instead of an enemy?
Or, do men and women continue down this scorched-earth path of mutually assured destruction?
