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Heritable Culpability is a stupid, morally broken idea

johntheother

September 26, 2012

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Title	Heritable Culpability is a stupid, morally broken idea
Author	johntheother
Upvotes	19
Comments	10
Date	September 26, 2012 9:07 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/10izlk/heritable_culpability_is_a_stupid_morally_broken/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/heritable-culpability-is-a-stupid-morally-broken.1012670 https://theredarchive.com/post/1012670

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Your case is mistaken, no matter who or what you're advocating for.

You seem to think that if something has been harmed it must be "helped" with restitution, and this restitution can include discriminating against an out group that is * perceived* to have done the harm.

If you want to build schools in Black neighbourhoods and give women only scholarships because you perceive them to be persecuted, then go ahead. When the state starts using guns, force, coercion, and the legal system to "right past wrongs" and help the one footed group hobble to success, it is just being discriminatory and creating a new persecuted, one footed out group.

Case in point: men and boys in education

You could make a fallacious argument that women needed special treatment in education years ago, but now the shoe is on the other foot. Boys are suffering immensely and an entire generation of them is being failed, especially in the US, and they have absolutely no means of restitution, special treatment, or anything else. This is because affirmative action programs are 100% political in nature because they are ethically indefensible. In the United Kingdom, affirmative action is referred to as positive discrimination, a much more Orwellian term than the stereotypically euphemistic affirmative action term used in American English.

Affirmative action is discrimination plain and simple, and it is abhorrent. Legislating favouratism for "oppressed" groups is the same type of thought that banned blacks from Universities in the American South and gave Whites special treatment in South Africa.

The goal of such measures is not to establish equality, liberty, or justice. It's goal is to establish a new order in which the previous groups take the reigns of power and begin exercising their will on everyone else. Hutu vs. Tutsi, Bosnian vs. Serb, Man vs. Feminist, Euro-American vs. African-American. Each group picks a rival and tries to subjugate it.

Go walk into a room full of feminists and tell me that they aren't trying to lord over you and that they are simply hell bent on replacing what they perceive to be patriarchy with matriarchy. Contemporary feminism is nothing more than the manifestation of the avaricious woman's will to power.

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