Male Disposability & Female Objectification

Collective82 · 2012-04-30T18:03:29+00:00

LOL! my ad before this was a woman looking through all her pink dresses then choosing biker leather to go ride her pink motorcycle. All this to describe the tmobile has 4g

Grapeban · 2012-04-30T18:23:06+00:00

Warning: I'll be honest, I've too much of a headache to watch the whole thing, so I only saw the first half of this video.

This video starts out with typical evopsych bullshit in defense of gender roles.

Basically it says, women are natural carers, this is why they flock to jobs like teaching and medicine.

No, they flock to these jobs because society pressures women into the role of carer.

(as a sidenote, why is it that these people who talk about women "naturally" becoming teachers and doctors are generally the same people who mourn the fact that men tend to work in the army and more physically demanding roles? Surely, by their logic, that is "natural" of men!)

And, forgive me if I'm wrong, the video doesn't really seem to go anywhere with this evopsych stuff. It just sets up the idea that women are naturally weak and sneaky (sorry, "caring and manipulative", as the video euphamises) and that men are strong and awesome and then doesn't seem to do much with this idea.

Then we get a fundamental misunderstanding of the idea of female objectification, which seems to be confusing objectification with idolisation. Objectification is when women are reduced down to one or two characteristics and judged purely on those things. Generally this is beauty and, maybe, how "nice" they are, "nice" normally meaning subservient.

Objectification doesn't lead to, as the video claims, higher welfare and molly-coddled women, it leads to beauty pageants, slut-shaming, fat-shaming, disability-shaming and general "ugly"-shaming. It leads to the standard of beauty, it leads to rape culture, it contributes to homophobia and transphobia. It is not women's magical ticket to a good life full of people being nice to them.

Also, the video claims that "Welfare is bad because it leads to us spending money, that could be spent on making a better economy, on disadvantaged people! The horror!".

My reply to this point is that some things are more important than getting a bigger economy, for example, ensuring all citizens can live a happy life.

Title	Male Disposability & Female Objectification
Author	MRMRising
Upvotes	7
Comments	2
Date	April 30, 2012 5:45 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/t01do/male_disposability_female_objectification/
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