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Art of Manliness Podcast on Men's Rights.

atheistunderworld

January 29, 2012

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http://artofmanliness.com/2011/03/24/the-art-of-manliness-podcast-episode-36-the-decline-of-males-with-dr-lionel-tiger/

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Title	Art of Manliness Podcast on Men's Rights.
Author	atheistunderworld
Upvotes	6
Comments	11
Date	January 29, 2012 6:14 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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That doesn't make your point though. See I'm arguing that Feminists aren't Marxist, you are arguing that Marxists take advantage of feminism to further there own goals. They are not the same thing.

Feminists by your own words in the post I am replying to are not intending to further Marxism, therefore they are not Marxist. If I accidentally help a Marxist by giving him money or some tea or something it doesn't mean I agree with Marxist ideology.

So... Yeah, I believe you have a bit of a logical inconsistency there. I mean you could have argued that Marxism has influenced Feminism in some subtle conspiracy theory sort of way to make gender studies Marxist and I wouldn't have agreed with you but your ideas would have had an internal logical consistency.

You instead chose to argue that Feminism was a branch of Marxism which just plain isn't true. I mean for a start the brand of Marxism you are referring to is a splinter of Marxism for one so even using the phrase "Marxist" is a tad misleading, then you say the Frankfurt School is the origin of Feminism, which got its roots in the suffrage movement and other older ideas that predate the Frankfurt School, thirdly the assertion that Feminists being dupes to the Frankfurt school is the same as them being Marxist which seems unfair.

Say for example I helped a Marxist get elected to office not knowing he was a Marxist, does that make me a Marxist for furthering the goals of Marxism?

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