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Gabby Petito Domestic Violence Pass

NoMarriageNoKids · 2021-09-16T18:11:49+00:00

Here's the full bodycam footage of the Moab PD investigation into Gabby's domestic assault against her boyfriend, Brian. What's amazing...

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September 16, 2021

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Title	Gabby Petito Domestic Violence Pass
Author	NoMarriageNoKids
Upvotes	0
Comments	18
Date	September 16, 2021 6:11 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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The rates of partner homicides weren't that far apart. Then women got help and resources and the rate they killed their husbands dropped a lot. Men didn't get DV shelters they could use to protect their kids from their abuser without getting kidnapping charges giving the abuser an upper hand in custody, government funded help to allow them to get easy restraining orders, DV intervention public policy and programs that favored them, etc. Therefore the rate that husbands kill their wives hasn't dropped much. Maybe if we want to eliminate the desperate husbands in mutually abusive relationships killing their wives, we should give them better options. That would probably save a lot of women's lives just like doing it for women has saved a lot of mens lives.

"Gender Differences in Patterns and Trends in U.S. Homicide, 1976–2015" by James Alan Fox and Emma E. Fridel. The data comes from FBI statistics ("FBI's Supplementary Homicide Reports, SHR").

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/vio.2017.0016?journalCode=vio&

Here's part of the conclusion that the authors came to:

Among all the results already reported, perhaps the most striking and important surrounds the trends in intimate partner homicide, particularly in the context of ongoing efforts to curtail domestic violence. Some researchers argue that the reduction in male intimate partner victimization, a decline of nearly 60% over the past four decades, is because of an increase in the availability of social and legal interventions, liberalized divorce laws, greater economic independence of women, as well as a reduction in the stigma of being the victim of domestic violence. Although at an earlier time a woman may have felt compelled to kill her abusive spouse as her only defense, she now has more opportunities to escape the relationship through means such as protective orders and shelters (Dugan et al. 1999; Fox et al. 2012). As a tragic irony, the wider availability of support services for abused women did not appear to have quite the intended effect, at least through the 1980s, as only male victimization declined.

Here is a graph of intimate partner homicides by sex over the years from the study. Notice the trend for women as they got help vs men that didn't?

https://m.imgur.com/a/6Hx9dJt

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[–]duhhhh 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Domestic violence is not a very gendered issue. There may be some gendered nuance to the acts, but not much difference. The genderedness is almost entirely in how it is handled.

Yes. A woman put together the first DV shelters. I suggest you read the Overview section of Erin Pizzey's wikipedia page or one of her books. She was the founder of Refuge, one of two UK DV organizations that had their funding diverted to nondiscriminatory organizations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

She created the worlds first domestic violence shelters. After opening several for women in the UK, she suggested that men were being abused too (often by women staying in her shelters) and men needed a shelter too. She was then slandered, her kids were threatened, her dog was killed, bricks were thrown through her windows, and she was removed from the DV organization she founded (now known as Refuge which has just recently lost funding for harming male victims decades later). She fled the country for her childrens safety and became an outspoken DV activist and anti-feminist once they moved out on their own.

Men who have tried to create shelters struggle with getting any government funding because it all goes to womens shelters, most of which don't help any males over 12.

I wish we as a society look at gender neutral domestic violence data instead of studies looking for violence against women.

Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.

Src: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/

Behind a paywall I have archived around, but Harvard research that women are more likely than men in starting or escalating domestic violence and those women are by far the women most likely to be injured in DV. That doesn't say all women injured are perpetrators themselves, but it does indicate the problem goes beyond the feminist/pop culture model of "violence against women".

It includes:

Almost 25% of the people surveyed — 28% of women and 19% of men — said there was some violence in their relationship. Women admitted perpetrating more violence (25% versus 11%) as well as being victimized more by violence (19% versus 16%) than men did. According to both men and women, 50% of this violence was reciprocal, that is, involved both parties, and in those cases the woman was more likely to have been the first to strike.

Src: https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/In_Brief_Domestic_violence_Not_always_one_sided

http://archive.is/7vuUz

This is a long meta study that shows we've known domestic violence isn't gendered for decades. It is good analysis of data in hundreds of other studies.

https://connect.springerpub.com/content/sgrpa/1/3/332 or the whole study here http://www.menweb.org/battered/StrausV78.pdf

Popculture article -

https://thedailycounter.com/male-victims-of-domestic-violence-are-they-ignored/

Most domestic violence research today is research of "violence against women" from grants specifically looking for data on violence against women, not gender neutral research.

oncefa2 has posted lots stuff on this topic with academic references. e.g.

https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/f604hw/some_sources_on_the_severity_of_domestic_violence/

I also suggest you look into the feminist Duluth Model of Domestic Violence Intervention which results in men being beaten by their wives being arrested more often than the perpetrator when they call the police for help.

Ellen Pence (The creator) herself has written,

"By determining that the need or desire for power was the motivating force behind battering, we created a conceptual framework that, in fact, did not fit the lived experience of many of the men and women we were working with. The DAIP staff [...] remained undaunted by the difference in our theory and the actual experiences of those we were working with [...] It was the cases themselves that created the chink in each of our theoretical suits of armor. Speaking for myself, I found that many of the men I interviewed did not seem to articulate a desire for power over their partner. Although I relentlessly took every opportunity to point out to men in the groups that they were so motivated and merely in denial, the fact that few men ever articulated such a desire went unnoticed by me and many of my coworkers. Eventually, we realized that we were finding what we had already predetermined to find."

So unless you are a sexist that doesn't #BelieveWomen, domestic violence isn't gendered.

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Incorrect. Women are just as violent, even more so, than men. Men are just bigger and stronger so more damage is done when they do it.

So, murders and GBIs are more done by males than females. But, daily physical assaults and attacks are definitely more common with women. Why? They aren't treated as harshly by authorities, like in the code here, so they continue doing it.

What is your of Brian here having gouge/scratch marks in his face and arms and the police still buy her bullshit that "she didn't intend to cause pain or bodily harm?" The cops justified it because she's a small blond cute girl. Total female privilege.

She's likely not alive at this point so I'm not trying to trash the dead. But, this body cam is a perfect example of how women indeed have privilege. Well, looks like she didn't learn her lesson from this close-call where the cops let her off because now she's gone.

"Men are responsible for 95% of violent crime." Sorry, I think you're mistaken. Take a look at this sub. I promise that women commit more than 5 % of all violent crime.