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The Myth of Toxic Masculinity in a Gynocentric Social Order

Heavy_Grand2526

February 2, 2022
72 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.securesingle.com/the-myth-of-toxic-masculinity-in-a-gynocentric-social-order/
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Title The Myth of Toxic Masculinity in a Gynocentric Social Order
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Heavy_Grand2526

Upvotes 72
Comments 10
Date February 2, 2022 12:54 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/siaw23/the_myth_of_toxic_masculinity_in_a_gynocentric/
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Comments

[+]ToadMugen72 -22 points-21 points-20 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Myth? Toxic Masculinity isn't a myth.

[–]Bowlnk 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Yes it is. What you're refering to is just people being dicks. Men and women.

[–]ToadMugen72 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

No, I'm referring to toxic masculinity not people being dicks. Obviously men and woman can both be dicks and it have nothing to do with toxic masculinity, but that doesn't mean toxic masculinity isn't a thing.

https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/news/all-things-work/PublishingImages/Pages/how-toxic-masculinity-is-ruining-your-workplace-culture/21-0298%20ATW%203-6%20Toxic%20Masculinity_graphics_R2%20standalone1_455x455.jpg

[–]Bowlnk 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only one of those is relevant. The supressing emotions. all the other ones can be atributed to women aswell. So your argument falls flat.

I.E. People are dicks, and toxic masculinity is a myth. Its nothing but a slur to make men feel bad.

[–]ToadMugen72 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not an insult or attack on men in anyway or a statement about men or male attributes. It's that men feel they need to conform to male gender norms that encourage violence, sexual assault, homophobia, misogyny, supressing emotions. All this stuff has negative effects on men as well, such as suppressing emotions causing depression and stress/anxiety.

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[–]k6-0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

everytime i ask someone list off some characteristics of “toxic masculinity” is followed up with them telling me traits that come natural to males and everytime i hear this it just seems they are trying to demonize men for no reason. would you pls give traits i would like to read what you have to say

edit after clicking the link: after reading it the listed things are shii women fall under as well so are you going to bring up toxic femininity? also i would consider those toxic masculinity i would just say that’s a shitty person

the only one i see that may fit is the emotions one but currently most women don’t want an emotional man and when is seen being emotional it’s usually followed with criticism so i’m not sure if the point your trying to make here

[–]ToadMugen72 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not about the individual traits, anyone could have any of them for many reasons, but men feel they need to conform to all of these toxic traits to be respected and it causes problems in society for everyone including men.

It's not most women that don't want a man with emotion and the women that put down men that show emotion reinforce toxic masculinity, they're not a counter argument.

[–]k6-0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

if anyone can fit into these traits like you said then that proves my point this is toxic masculinity it’s just “people” being assholes.

can you give some examples like honestly most women don’t want a man that’s cries or shows emotion because it is seen as less masculine your going to sit here and lie like most women are going to choose a emotional over an non emotional guy. pls stop especially with the first response the fact that you can’t see how that debunks what your trying to prove here is crazy

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