The Fraud of Feminism | Matt O'Connor: Father4Justice

fiat_lux_ · 2013-11-20T18:16:47+00:00

Before calling it a fraud, there's a lot of discrepancy between how different people define feminism. GirlWriteWhat had a pretty good video trying to define "what feminism is", and brought up some interesting points about how to approach this issue... whether to treat it as a movement, ideology, massive organization, etc.

As a for the "core ideology", I mostly disagree with it and especially "patriarchy theory". To me, it's uses too much social science hogwash to support a forgone conclusion. It's too hateful and pins way too much blame on men, making everything seem so deliberate and sinister when much of society/economics throughout history can be explained rather naturally.

As for feminism as a movement and as a set of shared values, (while it certainly does have its disagreeable aspects) a lot of it can actually be a lot more agreeable. As much as many here would like to bash on /r/feminism, if you go to the subreddit and sort by top three posts there of all time, they talk about:

"Me vs. Other Girls" -- which is basically a post about respecting other women. It's an indirect acknowledgement that a lot of the social pressures/shaming comes from other women, not just men.
"Abortion" -- which frankly, I'm OK with. If you guys have disagreements or issues with abortion, that's fine, but the disagreements on this issue tend to be either on religious grounds (there are women who disagree with abortion on moral/religious grounds too) or on the fact that men have no say on the matter (whether to keep the child or not, and forcibly paying child support on a child the women has all the power to decide to keep or not). The complaint of that post itself, though, seems focused against religious types who are ignorant of female bodies. E.g. denying abortion even in cases where it threatens the woman's life. The religious/moral battle should be taken elsewhere though.
"Was really happy to see this on my newsfeed." -- Yet another post that basically criticizes judgmental women.

The first time I checked the top posts, I was pleasantly surprised that there's acknowledgment of the fact that not all of social pressures against women were deliberate machinations of men.

Just putting this out there so we can avoid unnecessary misunderstandings. And trust me, I'm not enthusiastically defending that label, but a lot of otherwise rational people choose to associate with it, just like a lot of you associate with MRA.

Title	The Fraud of Feminism \| Matt O'Connor: Father4Justice
Author	ShitLordXurious
Upvotes	16
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Date	November 20, 2013 4:54 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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