Paul Elam on The Bill Carroll Show, on the 20/20 ABC article

snoopyzanus · 2013-10-19T18:12:02+00:00

It's an interesting chess game.

After decades of ignored reasonable, measured rhetoric and protest, MRAs realize that the only way they can get reported on by the media at all is to do something somewhat outrageous, like dress up as Batman or use controversial, satirical rhetoric to act as a lightening rod to draw attention to the movement.

But the tactic is a one-two punch. The controversial rhetoric draws attention, and when the attention comes, the reasoned perspective that is otherwise completely ignored finally gets its chance to be heard.

My take is that this radio jockey was hoping for Paul to say something outrageous that he could use to stir up his audience and was somewhat deflated when Paul debunked the hateful quote and proceeded to talk reasonably — which is why Paul was abruptly cut off, only for the R.J. to then "somehow" have plenty of time to talk out of his ass about something he knows virtually nothing about, in order to frame the issue as he wanted.

I'm sure Paul knew this would likely happen, but was happy even for the short time he was able to get to state the truth and for the publicity he was able to get for AVFM.

(If anyone at AVFM is reading this I would be interested to know if my take on this is correct or not, and if not, how.)

Trekkie1701 · 2013-10-20T03:50:18+00:00

"I think guys should be able to go somewhere to talk about their problems"

Really? Because all you've done for the past half hour is call us a bunch if basement dwelling loser who can't get laid, for doing that exact thing thing.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-10-20T16:24:51+00:00

Strange interview, Carroll asks questions and Paul answers them then after he finishes talking to him asks the same questions as if Paul never said anything. Still, great to see more talk about this.

TheGDBatman · 2013-10-20T21:57:35+00:00

Bill Carroll: You just gotta figure it out, guys.

What a fucking tool. Yeah, you're getting screwed by the gender roles you're forced into (not married? No kids? You're not a man, you're just a little boy in your parents' basement who can't get laid, apparently), but you should just man up and take it. Talk about a world-class douche.

Title	Paul Elam on The Bill Carroll Show, on the 20/20 ABC article
Author	Frankly_No
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Date	October 19, 2013 4:38 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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