Hey Seddit, I have been hit with a rather peculiar excuse twice now and I would like to know your take on how to proceed.

Occurrence 1: Im at a party talking to this girl, we hitting it off. Few hours pass (I break rapport and rejoin), I ask her if she wants to see the pool room in the house since I have the keys for it. Take her there and just turn her around for the makeout when we are in privacy. Escalate and suck on her tits for a bit on the couch while fingering her (she is wet like niagara falls), but when i try try to take her skirt and panties off, she doesn't let me, sais "i would let you if i was drunk but im too sober, i cant right now". I try to the usual and repeat after a few minutes but no, this girl is adamant about me not actually fucking her. Nothing else happens and I take her home.

Occurance 2: take this girl ive been pursuing on a date. i know she likes me, we have made out the first time we met hard before and dry humped, but she was tipsy. She is leaving the country in a month and super conservative and told me she does not do one night stands and only relationships. Since she is leaving we cant have a relationship, she does not do LDR. We drink a little bit, and I try to go for a kiss. She tells me she is not drunk enough for that, and wont kiss me cause she does not see a future with us. We go home and nothing happens.

I cant make sense of this. They are admitting to be down to fuck me if drunk WHILE SOBER. Wrap your mind around that for a second. And it seems it is not an excuse, cause I tried multiple times (5-10 minutes apart) to be refused everytime. In example one I was licking and smacking her tits and she was wet, in example two I had already fking made out with her and she came out to a DATE and refused to kiss me at all. both refused to follow what should be a natural progression.

What is going on ?

Should I have firmly took her skirt and panties off anyway despite her protests in the first example? did I pussy out last minute by fearing looking like a rapist ?