Met her about a week ago at a bar, went out with her twice this week, including earlier today. I hardly ever go on dates, but bar/club game hasn't been so great for me the last couple of weekends, so I've been going on a few dates to keep things moving.

First night I met her, there was some light kino and I tried to make out with her, but she wouldn't do it. I also picked her up and then fell and busted up my elbow, haha.

1st date, I completely froze her out physically, didn't touch her at all. Just a lot of conversation and all. I tend to escalate very quickly with girls, so I figured I'd try something different.

2nd date (4 days after the first):

  • Her accent is incredibly hard to understand, but it's getting better. I just try to do my best with it.

  • Being a good listener helps. She talked far more than I, and seemed to enjoy it. Saves me thinking of shit to say also.

  • Hard to joke with her, given the language barrier. Afraid she either won't understand or will take it as an insult, since many of my jokes are in the cocky-funny David DeAngelo style. Most girls eat that up, but she'd never get it.

  • Paid this time, though I didn't last time (lunch both times). I seem to get the same results whether I pay or not, so I need to break that habit.

  • Arm around her on the street and later when I'm walking her to my car to drive her home.

  • Get her in front of her house (stupid fucking idea in retrospect, she lives w/ her parents, and she might feel uncomfortable fooling around there) in my car dropping her off. Makeout session in car, not very long, but pretty passionate. She's big on the lip biting.

Plan to get her to my house next time. Don't know if she'll fuck, she seems kinda conservative, but hopefully she'll do more.

Thoughts?

And how far do you think I should push things physically next time? I very not used to dealing with more conservative girls, not at all.