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Escalating Past the First Kiss

Break_Yoself_Foo · 2014-11-13T18:49:51+00:00

I'm no expert yet, but I've had a lot of success' in the past few months thanks to this sub and it's now easy for me to build comfort and...

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November 13, 2014

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Title	Escalating Past the First Kiss
Author	Break_Yoself_Foo
Upvotes	5
Comments	7
Date	November 13, 2014 6:49 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/2m7d6c/escalating_past_the_first_kiss/
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Comments

[–]Pit_Sweat 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You're giving up too soon.

You'll always get friction. Always, because no girl wants to feel like a slut. The trick is to alternate pulling with pushing - two steps forward, one step back. Let's say you're making out and you start reaching up her shirt and she stops you. Don't give up, and for god's sake don't whine about it. Just stop, and take a couple steps back. Take it easy for a bit. Go back to cuddling and talk about something. Give it a few minutes and she'll be craving your attention again. Make out, then try reaching up her shirt and keep escalating until she stops you again. Rinse, repeat and you'll get there.

Few words of wisdom though:

1) Always read her nonverbal cues. If she stops you but she's still smiling and obviously enjoying herself, follow my advice above and you'll push further. If she's frowning, looks upset or unhappy, then that's the end for you. Stop immediately and either do something else or call off the date. You can try again later.

2) Some girls just will not put out until she's had a certain number or dates, and nothing you do is going to change that, even if she's really enjoying herself. That's just something you'll have to accept.

[–]Break_Yoself_Foo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Pit_Sweat 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I read your post. Like we always say on here, we can't read minds, so we don't know what your girl was thinking or what her intentions were the entire time. It's always possible that she just wasn't that into you to begin with and no matter what you did you would end up at the same result. But just commenting on your game:

You came off way too needy and that's why she ran. You began with the "I want a relationship" speech. You didn't say with her specifically, but what else was she supposed to think?

When she said "I'm not looking for that," your immediate reaction should have been to push. Not just any push, but a SHOVE. For 2 reasons:

1) You want a committed relationship and she said so herself that she didn't, so a man who stands up for what he wants would have called it quits right there.

2) Whenever a girl starts to push you away, you push back. The worst thing to do is to try and pull her in when she's getting cold. You should definitely not have gone to her house after that one.

You called her out on her not wanting to have sex with you? You may have justified it in your head somehow but the only way I can imagine that came out is needy, whiny, and bordering on begging. Don't do that again. In fact, never, ever seem like you're eager to have sex until your P is in her V.

What she did at the end shouldn't have confused you. You essentially pushed her away which is what you should have done at the very beginning. You established your boundaries and told her that you weren't going to put up with her shit. And like most girls would do, she reacted with a pull of her own because she realized that you weren't a needy little man trying to kiss her ass like everybody else is.

[–]Break_Yoself_Foo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude, so many things clicked in my head when you said that! That makes so much sense.

I always try not to come off as needy; I didn't text her often at all, no special treatment, always blunt and straight forward. That's why I was confused as to what happened. Now I realize that I did show my underlying insecurities and I really did want to treat her special, even though she didn't reciprocate my feelings. Realized too late that I definitely should have cut ties when she said she didn't want a relationship, but I didn't plan what I said so it was a spur of the moment type thing... whoops. I'm moving on though haha, I've since met a few cool girls.

Looking back, I'm actually glad for the experience. The old me would have just gotten friendzoned and accepted it. I'd have never broken off contact like that at the risk of losing someone who I really liked, so that's a win

Thanks again man. In all the advice I've gotten on this site, this has to be up there on the top. You should do this more often

[–]Pit_Sweat 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Break_Yoself_Foo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]RalphyMays 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link