Tonight, I was invited to an underground punk party by one of the girls I directly approached in daygame (the 1st approach from the 67th daygame/ the cute bohemian girl).

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GENERAL INFO
What I've practised

THE STORY

POST-FEEDBACKS
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1- I'm proud of myself that I got out of the house
2- Using the same lines is problematic when things are long-run.
3- I couldn't isolate the girl from the social circle
4- do not goodbye only the girl
5- paper in my ear
6- find out whether the girls are free or not
7- case: the date organised by the girl
8- sexual frame
9- kinoing back too hard
10- worthlessness of verbal skills when it comes to the night-game

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GENERAL INFO

I had had a date normally, but the date girl flaked. Meanwhile, another girl invited me to a party. I haven't had a date with her before. Because I want to improve my indirect circle game, I decided to join the party.

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THE STORY

I needed to go to the city center first. When I told her that I was in the center, she offered me to meet there. I went to the meeting place- started to talk to a random girl (situational opener) just to create the pre-selection effect on the girl I was waiting for. She wrote to me that she was late. She wanted me to go to the party place.
Not good, not good... I wrote "o.k, let's see +"
I wanted to write something unclear. Because I didn't like what she wrote & how she wrote.

I went to the place. There were 70~ people in front of the building.
I got anxious first. Then I opened the motivational old-school pick-up video I created.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQpLy4DiFyY&ab_channel=billKarlas)
I listened to it, then parked my bike and started to observe people & groups.
I saw a double set sitting on a bank far from the big group- I approached them.

They were shy sisters as they told me. That was why they didn't want to join other big groups. I applied my daygame assumption list to them. We met. They didn't ask me any further questions, then I wanted to meet new people. I greeted them and walked towards the crowded groups (I talked to them and spent some time with them later in the party to create some social proof).

In a previous public gathering, I learned a strategy to get into a big group: to meet a small part of the group first. I opened situationally to 3 people set (2 male 1 female). I introduced myself briefly. They were friendly university students studying Japanese. They introduced me with the other part of their group (10~ people). For a few minutes, they all were interested in me. They asked a lot of questions. Then, gradually, the set became 4 people set. 1 very cute girl, 1 girl, 2 guys.

All girls were interested in me as fuck. I was the star of this place. Girls were offering me drinks, wanting me to write my Instagram ID in their phones, kinoing back hard to me...

There were 2 very cute girls interested in me & I liked. However, one of them seemed like she was the girlfriend of a guy I met there (they were hugging, kissing from face). The other one drank too much vodka that she felt asleep inside of the place (in the end, I learned that the girl was not the girlfriend of the guy).

Meanwhile, it had been 1 hour. We talked, met & spent a good time together with the people I met there. My girl wasn't there. I was completely outcome-independent there. My goal was just to practice social dynamics.
The party was about to start. They let us inside (there was an entrance fee of 2.5 euros). I had 2 euros in my pocket. I offered to pay with the card while I knew it was not possible. I just wanted to show that I had money & I was not needy to the security guys. They let me in for a lower price.

The place was full of university students- a lot of young & beautiful girls.
I sat with the group I met outside. I told them that I was half Turkish & half Greece. I was born in San Francisco & raised in Istanbul- That was why my name was Bill, I was white & I only speak Turkish & English.
One of the guys in the group was suspicious of me. He was asking a lot of questions about what I've told them. Especially he was wondering about who invited me to this underground & non-published party. It would be stupid to explain him daygame stuff, so it was a bit hard to handle with this guy's shittesty questions. In the end, I hold my frame of being cool & mysterious- said that I was a secret agent working for the Turkish government & he caught me.

The punk-party atmosphere was the probably the weirdest place I've been in.
There were weird people with weird clothes & weird hairstyles. The music was... wtf man... music didn't even have a rhythm. It just plays for a short period of time, and during this time, all young men push and hurt each other in the middle of the place.

I opened a few sets with indirect situational openers during the music breaks. It was impossible to talk to people when the "music" on, even you shout into their ears.

Eventually, the girl had come. She wrote to me a couple of times that she was inside.
I just ignored her for a while. Then, I found her in the place while she was writing something to me on WP. We hugged, danced a bit. Then one of the cute girls I met outside came & hugged me. I introduced her to my girl. My girl introduced me to her friends she had a lot there). I had a great social proof there.
My girl was crazy. she joined into the deadly-pushing & hurting activity starting when the music is on its peak. (eventually, among that much huge guys, she hurt her feet, later).

Unfortinutally, my girl knew a lot of people in the party. She continuously changed groups to dance. I was just one of the groups she danced with from time to time.
During the times when she was not with me, I didn't just sit somewhere like a loser. I was observing her time to time, but I was also dancing with other people, meeting with new girls.
But my girl was so into her social circle.

I was suspicious of the reason why she invited me. Maybe to support their musician friends with an extra client? Maybe envy her crush by displaying me?

The party gradually finished. People were kissing and stuff. I wanted to get my girl to sit with me and build some comfort (c2 & c3). However, the place & atmosphere was completely unsuitable for it. In the end, people went outside. We all went to the under the bridge, and post-party started there.

She was again talking to her friend groups constantly. I tried to join her group once, but when I talked to her friends, she left the group to another group. I pissed off. I learned that there will be another post-party after this under-bridge place. The girl was interested in her social circle. I had to work tomorrow. It was at 1 am. I decided to go back.

I again joined one of her talking groups. I interrupted her, had a small talk with other members of the group & took my girl outside of the group to talk by holding her hand.

I thanked for inviting me to this place. I told her that I had met very cool people, and I experienced a very different party experience. and I continued... "however, I'd like to spend some time with 'you' later". We agreed on Saturday night. We hugged each other. I did my date-close routine & we kissed each other from cheeks for 5 times (so-called Turkish style). She was again, so cute.

I left the place.

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POST-FEEDBACKS
-mini outline-
1- I'm proud of myself that I got out of the house
2- Using the same lines is problematic when things are long-run.
3- I couldn't isolate the girl from the social circle
4- do not goodbye only the girl
5- paper in my ear
6- find out whether the girls are free or not
7- case: the date organised by the girl
8- sexual frame
9- kinoing back too hard
10- worthlessness of verbal skills when it comes to the night-game

1- I'm proud of myself that I got out of the house

Getting out of the house and having social interactions are successes on their own for me. When it becomes my long-run habit, the process will become progress.

2- Using the same lines is problematic when things are long-run.

When the target was with me, some of her friends asked me where I was from. I said "guess where" as I had done for several times when the target was with me. Eventually, she told me "don't do that :/" and answered "Istanbul". The situation felt like a huge DLV for me.

As mystery told, we need different kinds of openings. There will be external comers. We cannot do the same things for each people when there are people around us.

3- I couldn't isolate the girl from the social circle

That is the major problem of my circle games. I approach people, I meet people, I attach them. However, I cannot isolate the target to go on with the comfort stage.

In his seminars, Mystery tells that:

  • After C1, rapport, (negging, attracting the group) you need to alienate her from the group

    • Come here I’ll show you something really cool- I borrow her for 2 minutes- don’t expect anything with good conversation

      • Grab her hand (kino-testing) and move
        You don’t have to go too far. You just need to spend 1 to 1 time with her to build the C2 and go to C3
        - You know she has already attracted to you (test is +)
        - You showed your DHVs into her group
        - You lowered her self-esteem by neggs
        - In this point, you did the first step: Attraction & C1. From now on, you’ll go on with C2 & C3.

    • “I’ll be honest to you.. when I met with you, your first impression sucked. But your friends are cool and you started to seem pretty cool now, and I thought I wanted to know you more ;)

      • When you enter the comfort, stop using neggs
        After this point, you need to convey your personality, learn about her.

Although I've taken this note, I couldn't apply it properly because she was constantly changing groups. > I could give her one of my items as a hook item to make her hang out around me.

I could be more confident about grabbing her hand, getting a 1 to 1 place and talking to her.

In order to be able to do so, first I had to keep her in a group & attract the group by telling my fun, exciting travel stories instead of stupid science-art-philosophy topics as I did like an idiot.
The stories like:
a- Italy-orgy party/ the atmosphere of the club
b- Uluğdağa hiking/ the cold of belgrade
c- Center of Lviv and girls around the center
d- Ukraine border translator
e- Climbing to a soviet factory
f- Belgrade University studying room- meeting university students
g- Belgrade university turkish & english speaking club TA

4- do not goodbye only the girl

Again, when I was leaving the party, tho I met like 20~ people there, I just said goodbye to the target. Such an anti-social behaviour... Do not do that.

5- paper in my ear

Omfg... The "music" was so laugh that my ears were hurting. I found a paper and used it to close my ear holes. One of them went too deep and I tried to remove it. However, I had just cut my nails and I couldn't do it. Instead, it went deeper.

I was very uncomfortable. I tried a lot to remove it, but I couldn't.
Once, I thought to go back home, but I didn't want to lose the opportunity of experiencing such a party. I left it in my ear till I went back home. I used a tool to remove it.

6- find out whether the girls are free or not

As I wrote above, there were 2 very cute girls at their 18s & very interested in me. I didn't play on them that much because both I have already had a target & I thought the guy I met was his bf. I saw them partly making out in the club.
Eventually, I learned at the end of the party that they were fucking solo there. There was another guy kissing with the girl.

Mystery said that "you'll eventually need to ask the question 'so, how do you know each other?'"
I asked it without thinking. Shame on me. they knew each other from their fucking university.
I needed to be more specific. I could ask "so, do you come to such places regularly as a couple?"

7- case: the date organised by the girl

A PUA once said that do not go to the events organised by the girl; at least before a couple of 1 to 1 date.
It was completely ineffective interaction of me and the target. I was just a bit needy about finding a public gathering to go, and that's why I went there.

This event just contributed to the stages of C1 because of kinos, and maybe A2 because of the social proof I got there.
I'll need to go on with C2 on the next date.

8- sexual frame

I must have this. I feel like I'm still a nice guy. I need to have a sexual frame. It must be the sauce of every topic I talk, and the humour must be its spice.

9- kinoing back too hard

Omfg... It's so cringy ... At the first time we met in the club, I kinoed her by referring to the violent actions they did in the stage. She did me too, then I did it again by increasing the violence. This process was repeated gradually & increasingly. In the end, I think I hurt her. Such an uncalibrated antisocial behaviour...

10- worthlessness of verbal skills when it comes to the night-game

I saved this one for the end. When I left the party and going on my bike to my home, I thought about the dramatic difference between my ability to attract people outside by my verbal skills & inside of the club where music volume was too high.

I was completely unarmed in the club because I couldn't use my verbal skills. The only thing I could create attraction would be visual things there. That was the point I realised why Mystery was the Mystery.
He was evolutionary suitable to such environments. It is literally a great example of micro-evolution theory. He used his skills to survive in high-volume music environments by attracting people with his visual abilities.

And I understood that it's very important to know some visual tricks.