TRIGGER WARNING FOR TRANSPHOBIA AND SEXISM
I thought this would be something worth talking about. A cis woman, who was AFAB/born female, has always been raised/treated as female, and always thought themselves as female, from a country where being LGBT+ is illegal, is being targeted for being a “man” [and “trans” until the goalposts are moved] and experiencing the vitriol of what being perceived as “male” or not conforming to your gender gets you.
Here’s a game you can play: find the difference between comments from Fox News, the Daily Mail, GB News and the freaks on Twitter/FB, vs Feminist forums:
“She should kick him in the balls and be disqualified, repeat until the competition is over.” [Violence is always the solution. This would also be impossible due to lack of correct organs.]
“Why is a man being allowed to complete against women?! It is wrong. The stupidity and arrogance that fuels men’s rights activism. Women are called bigots unless they allow a man to physically beat them. Terrifying. So sad that Pride has been co-opted to celebrate male privilege and the silencing of women.” [Press X to doubt.]
“This is horrific. This is openly sanctioning male violence against women. It’s grotesque.”
“In a world where male violence against women and girls is described as an epidemic, they are green-lighting men to beat up women. This is a travesty. And of course they are demanding them to be referred to as being female. They are MEN, they are CHEATS. But iNcLuSiViTy.” [They later repeatedly take offence to someone else saying “women and girls” instead of “females”, for some reason?]
“Because if they say they’re a woman we’re magically supposed to believe it. Despite all evidence to the contrary.” [All evidence disagrees with this user.]
“They just DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WOMEN. This is the world we live in now. We couldn’t be hurting the menz feelings by telling the truth, very transphobic and bigoted to suggest that.” [Yes the “truth” you pulled out your arse is exactly those things, congratulations, now you get to pretend to be a victim.]
“Society thinks women are worthless.” [inserts every essay ever written about disposability, womb envy, and the empathy gap]
“The women, present and future, will lose. There will be no point entering as they will never, ever be able to win. All it takes is ONE MAN to destroy everything women work for.” “It doesn’t matter if all the women forfeit in protest, these MEN will win all the medals regardless.” “Watch your medals go to the freak show then shuffle back to the dressing room where you have to get changed with a man.” [“I’m so angry at this nonsense I imagined.”]
But also:
“The women will get battered or her opponent will lose accidentally on purpose, and supporters of men in women’s sports will say, nothing to see here.” [So even if they lose, they lost deliberately, after training for years and representing their country, for… reasons.]
But also:
“It doesn’t matter if they win or not. Why should this matter? Just because they didn’t win, just because they are in reality a mediocre male competitor, doesn’t mean that they should ever have been included in the protected female category!” [Wait, I thought it was about “safety” and it being “unfair” and “winning all the medals”? Now they’re mediocre? But also actually the best and lost on purpose? Amazing, so many things at once.]
“But but the poor menz with ladies feels.”
“It’s sanctioned abuse. It’s 1984. It’s not just the fact they’re obviously men, and have XY chromosomes, women’s lives and achievements count for nothing.” “I’m very scared for the beautiful Italian girl.” “We have proof he’s male based on a) having XY chromosomes, and b) looking at them.” posts a photo of a complete different person, a cis male footballer “If you can’t appreciate these athletes are men by looking at them then I can’t help you.” [Attacks based on attractiveness, toxic beauty standards, toxic femininity/gender expectations. Such progressive allies.][Ironically, they are undermining women’s achievements themselves by insisting women too good at sport or who don’t fit gender stereotypes must be men.][See also - Serena Williams facing accusations of being born male.]
“Is boxing appropriate for women anyway?”
“It doesn’t matter what they present as, or how long they’ve been getting away with it. They are MEN.”
“They should all pull out and get Elon Musk to host them a side competition in Paris at another venue, and the same at every Olympics.” “Welcome to 2024 where you are a far-right, transphobic bigot for saying a man with a penis should not fight a woman.” [Sides with Musk, shares Daily Mail and Telegraph links, is randomly and irrelevantly pro-monarchy in the thread, repeatedly parrots the lies and misinformation they’d rather believe no matter how many times it’s corrected… complains at being called “right wing”.]
“If this happened in normal life he would be jailed for assault. Disgusting. I bet no channel will show this crime against a female.” [I thought men were never held accountable for abuse? Now they go straight to jail apparently. No channel will show it, apart from the constant coverage on the BBC and media everywhere they mean? Also what is it with “females” all the time, are they Ferengi?]
“There is NO such thing as intersex. A male is XY regardless of what his genitalia may look like or how his mother dressed him.” “Does this man have penis?” “If you think any women have penises you are seriously deranged.” [For all their outrage about woman = vagina, man = penis, this does not seem consistent. They clearly wouldn’t be fine with a cis man using the women’s toilets or taking part in women’s sports even if it was found out they had a disorder that gave him XX chromosomes in tests. Nor do I think if they discovered they had XY chromosomes would they suddenly identify and live as a man. Hypocritical.]
“People like you make me FUCKING SICK.”
“The fact that this man still wants to fight women is the epitome of male entitlement, and is as much proof of his maleness as the medical tests.” [Some nice circular logic.]
That was a trick question - they’re all quotes from self-declared Feminists.
Here’s a list of things they constantly demand evidence of by sealioning, and motte-and-bailey tactics, even when provided or easily googled:
That they have a womb.
That they have a vagina.
That they don’t have a penis.
That they grew up believing they’re female.
That the Russian-controlled IBA is corrupt.
That they were AFAB.
But they unquestioningly believe, without any real confirmation:
That they have XY chromosomes.
That they were AMAB.
That they are a trans woman.
That they went through male puberty.
That the medical test was visual and saw they had a penis.
That it’s a new way for countries to win medals and get around drug testing.
That they were scouted specifically for being intersex.
That they are mentally ill.
That they are criminals.
I went through over 1000 comments so this is basically the tip of the iceberg. Of those comments only 6 took issue with a convicted child rapist taking part in the Olympics, so they clearly have their priorities in order and truly care about the protection of women and children from “criminals”.
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