WISNIFG: fogging when being disrespected?

fuckmrp · 2017-08-17T14:46:40+00:00

Make her own her statement. Stop, make direct eye contact and ask "what makes you feel that way"? Let her hamster take a shit on the conference table for all to see and then just move on. If you do this correctly she'll think twice about asking for the spot light.

Whatever you do, do not engage in anything she says. Smile and remain calm.

"Never contradict a woman, if you wait long enough she'll contradict herself."

UEMcGill · 2017-08-17T14:03:48+00:00

Understand that WISNIFG is about conflict resolution. Understanding manipulation and getting to a point where you can negotiate a favorable outcome.

Your friends presentation was not that situation. He could have dealt with her any number of ways. Sometimes pure silence is called for in that situation. Let her run her mouth and look at her like she's crazy. Then a simple "ok I guess?" and she'll damage herself more than him.

man_in_the_world · 2017-08-17T08:30:38+00:00

Fogging can also acknowledge the other's view but without accepting it:

"You're hopeless"

"I recognize that you think I'm hopeless, "

instead of

"You may be right"

or

"Your hair looks dirty"

"I understand that my hair appears dirty to you"

rather than

"It does doesn't it."

Don't forget that there are other tools such as negative inquiry that have their place as well.

[deleted] · 2017-08-17T12:44:48+00:00

Boundaries are important for directing behavior that's important to you.

If you define a boundary on her hitting you, for example, you are communicating a message of: "Hitting is a massive show of disrespect, and I will not tolerate disrespect because I hold my self worth to a high standard."

If you define a boundary on her commenting that your hair looks dirty, your message is: "I care about how you feel about my hair so much, that I need to make a statement to change this behavior."

One of the above cases displays weakness, one strength.

As for fogging, you don't appear to be weak because you ultimately don't care about their opinion. You are communicating that you acknowledge they've made a statement, and that you don't care about that statement, therefore is doesn't impact you. You are the rock.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-08-17T16:07:09+00:00

Isn't it better to stand up for yourself?

Yes. I agree the only appropriate response to a woman continually pick pick picking at the man is to confront her and tell her to knock it the fuck off.

when isn't it?

When you are to weak to stand up for yourself and defend against her emotionally manipulative counter attack.

Pro tip: If you tell a woman to knock it the fuck off and she continues carping and picking at you the traditional solution was to threaten to send her straight to the moon. Today men are not allowed to defend themselves so the only thing you can do is not to play. Remove ALL validation from her. Ignore her completely. This is not Monk Mode. This is punitive silent treatment that ends in one of two ways- she either submits and knocks it off or you are ready to torch it to the ground.

Title	WISNIFG: fogging when being disrespected?
Author	Bulk_king11
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Date	August 17, 2017 6:28 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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