TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

  • Subreddits

      Popular

    • /r/askTRP
    • /r/TheRedPill
    • /r/MarriedRedPill
    • /r/MensRights
    • /r/MGTOW
    • /r/PurplePillDebate
    • /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
    • /r/seduction
    • /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
    • Other

      • /r/AllPillDebate
      • /r/AlreadyRed
      • /r/altTRP
      • /r/AntiFeminists
      • /r/askFDS
      • /r/askMRP
      • /r/askRPC
      • /r/becomeaman
      • /r/BlackPillScience
      • /r/Chadfish
      • /r/Divorce_Men
      • /r/EverydayMisandry
      • /r/ExRedPill
      • /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
      • /r/FeminismStopsWhen
      • /r/GEOTRP
      • /r/MalePsychology
      • /r/Male_Studies
      • /r/MenSupportMen
      • /r/MGTOW2
      • /r/MuslimRedPill
      • /r/newTRP
      • /r/PussyPass
      • /r/PussyPassDenied
      • /r/RedPillBooks
      • /r/RedPillParenting
      • /r/RedPillWives
      • /r/RedPillWomen
      • /r/RedPillWorkplace
      • /r/RPChristians
      • /r/ThankTRP
      • /r/TheRedPillStories
      • /r/trpGAME
      • /r/TRPOffTopic
      • /r/TrueBlackPillMGTOW
      • /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre
  • Blogs

      Popular

    • A Voice for Men
    • Dalrock
    • Good Looking Loser
    • Heartiste
    • Married Man Sex Life
    • Return of Kings
    • The Power Moves
    • The Rational Male
    • The Spearhead
    • Other

      • Alpha Game
      • Archwinger
      • Artful Prudence
      • Black Label Logic
      • Caleb Jones
      • Captain Capitalism
      • Corporate Machiavelli
      • Days of Game
      • Deep Strength
      • Dicipres
      • Donal Graeme
      • Female Misogynist
      • Free Northerner
      • Gaming My Wife
      • Hawaiian Libertarian
      • Illimitable Men
      • In Mala Fide
      • Kill Your Inner Loser
      • KillToParty
      • Krauser PUA
      • LaidNYC
      • NO MA'AM
      • Omega Virgin Revolt
      • Pook's Mill
      • Random Xpat Rantings
      • Red Pill Theory
      • Red Pill Wifery
      • RedPillDad
      • RedPillDoctor
      • Rian Stone
      • RooshV
      • Seasons of Tumult and Discord
      • Sigma Frame
      • The Feminine Woman
      • The Futurist
      • The Masculine Principle
      • The Modern Man
      • The New Modern Man
      • The Obsidian Files
      • The Private Man
      • The Red Pill Room
      • The Red Quest
      • The Rules Revisited
      • Troy Francis
      • Wintery Knight
      • Woujo
      • Young Man Red Pill
  • Books
  • Dictionary
  • @TRParchive
  • Support

Bringing TRP Back Down To Reality

sabresandiego

October 8, 2014
0 upvotes
/r/TheRedPill
Download the post

Want to save the post for offline use on your device? Choose one of the download options below:

PDF TXT EPUB
Support the archive

Everything here was supposed to disappear. Banned subreddits, deleted communities, cancelled blogs — much of what is archived here survives nowhere else.

It stays free — no paywall, no account — for the next man who comes looking, the way it was free for you.

I pay for the servers, the storage and the bandwidth myself. If you want this record still standing in ten years, become one of the people who keeps it online.

Support the archive

Share
Share Tweet Reddit Email
Post Information
Title Bringing TRP Back Down To Reality
Author

sabresandiego

Upvotes 0
Comments 15
Date October 8, 2014 8:44 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2in7a7/bringing_trp_back_down_to_reality/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/bringing-trp-back-down-to-reality.22586
https://theredarchive.com/post/22586
Red Pill terms in post
the red pill
Top posts by sabresandiego

Men Who Want Children

7 upvotes
October 31, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Age And Fertility: Unbiased Reality

5 upvotes
October 31, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Age And How It Effects Both Sexes

3 upvotes
October 17, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Maximizing Relationship Utility Through Understanding Nature And Evolution

1 upvotes
September 19, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Why Is Women Sleeping Around Viewed As Negative?

0 upvotes
September 19, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Red Pill Extremism

0 upvotes
September 19, 2014
/r/TheRedPill

Comments

[–]Opioidus1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't mean this as an insult but you sound like a woman, are you female?

TRP Myth: Men can easily date and marry women 10+ years younger

Nobody says it will be ''easy'', you should be an attractive alpha male to do this. But if you are that attractive alpha male, then yes, it's fairly easy to date women much younger than yourself. I'm 39 and my current GF is 20, of course I live in western Europe where this age thing isn't as important as it is in the states, but still I have to be hip, up to date, stylish and run a very tight game just to maintain.

The ''easy'' part is just comparison to the situation post-wall women will face, I know zero women past 40 who have alpha lovers younger than themselves. And there's no way for them to compensate, unlike us older gentlemen with money, status and game.

TRP Myth: Women hit the wall at 25 and then their SMV becomes abysmal.

This is very true, ''staying attractive'' isn't the point, neither is fertility, it's just a simple question : is a woman more beautiful on her 20th birthday or her 25th. If beauty is a factor for men, and youth is a sign of beauty, then the answer is obvious.

TRP Myth: Women should be looked down upon for riding the cock carousel, yet the male strategy of pump and dump is perfectly valid.

This is a simple matter of values, I'm so sorry for women, I have three sisters you know. It's not our fault that we feel physically and emotionally sick by sluts. It's not our fault that women value men with more experience and higher per-selection and judge them as more attractive either. It's just our nature, a man with more experience is going to be loved by women and respected by men, because his success is sign of effort and skill and worth, an experienced woman is going to be used by men and resented by women because her ''success'' doesn't require anything but being easy.

You hamster on about the type of men who slut shame/slut love, in reality it is the old banged up ex-sluts carrying all the ''proud slut'' slogans and manboobed loser omega males white knighting for them online. Men with options despise sluts, and even for easy sex prefer to seduce more timid girls with less experience.

[–]sabresandiego[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I find a well maintained 30 year old woman to be more attractive than either 20 or 25... On average a 25 year old woman will look better though because there has been less time for bad lifestyle choices (bad diet, alcohol, etc) to take effect. If a woman has lived an immaculate lifestyle with fitness, plenty of outdoor activities, good nutrition and health, I am more attracted to a 30 year old than a 25 or under...

As for 20 looking better than 25, I completely disagree with that. The only reason that would be the case is less time for bad lifestyle choices to reap disaster. However a 25 year old who lives well is far more developed and sexy than a 20 year old, who is barely more than a teen. 25 any day.

And sluts don't make me feel sick at all. I really don't care how many partners the female Im seeing has had in the past, its irrelevant. If she got her rocks off by fucking all sorts of alpha dudes before meeting me, good for her, I dont give a fuck. Thats what nature programmed her to do. Alpha fucks beta bucks.

[–]Opioidus0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Well that's you, I was talking about a different kind of man, and redpill is about being/becoming that type of man. A man who finds younger women more attractive, is physically repulsed and morally outraged by sluts/slutty behavior even though he fucks them regularly, and doesn't care about ideological approval from old women about his way of life.

Accepting female nature is different from surrendering to it, and appeals to nature aren't that effective when it comes to matters of sexual appeal and attractiveness. Men with options discriminate among women by a very strict set of values that are immediately recognizable : being younger, prettier and more feminine. Now you say you don't share these values, that you are a man who indeed has the option to go with a 20 y old version of a woman he is with now, but doesn't.

Well, good for both of you friend. I'm different, but you don't see me going around telling white-knights their pathetic attempts at enabling sluts in hopes of getting laid is causing the decline of civilization. I say let's go our separate ways, you excuse slutty behavior from old, banged-up women, and I avoid them like a cat avoids rain. Everyone's happy, right?

[–]zoeStein1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I really stand with your last point, all humans are semi promiscuous naturally, just like we are not naturally monogamous. They go together, women sleep around a bit looking for a great mate, and men to spread their seed, and if we lived in a more natural hierarchy we would not have one mate, and children would be raised by the village. Its totally natural to sleep around a bit, and lets also agree that everyone loves sex, its also natural. Its only blown out of proportion in the media, so men think they should be sleeping with 50+ women, and girls are being told that its fun to sleep with a bunch of men and not care. And you know what happens? Everyone is miserable.

Its only a big deal in TRP, because we want everyone to understand that their virgin fairy tale wife is not real. Just like the woman's "Prince charming" is not real. Everyone's been lied to by their parents, some people just have a harder time accepting this (im looking at you fat feminist).

[–]sabresandiego[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Great post, although I do think humans are both monogamous and polygamous. Its a weird thing but I think we are capable and wired for both.

[–]zoeStein0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, I think it depends on circumstances and populations especially. Like how some men take on multiple wives, in some societies its the opposite, one women will have many husbands. In some cultures you can sleep with whomever you like, but you go home to something like a significant other at the end of the night, its like an open relationship community. I think we are flexible.

[–]alreadyredschool1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

TRP Myth: Women hit the wall at 25 and then their SMV becomes abysmal.

Most women start to settle down from 28 upwards. Peaking at 32. It doesn't matter how long they can stay sexy, the only thing that matters is when they start looking for a provider.

TRP Myth: Women should be looked down upon for riding the cock carousel, yet the male strategy of pump and dump is perfectly valid.

When a man is a time hoe, then I don't like him, because he is denying his own needs and he is a bad gatekeeper of commitment. When a woman is a slut, then I don't like her, because she is a bad gatekeeper of sex. + Somehow is every single slut that I know a cunt. The guys on TRP that want or have an LTR hate sluts. The ones being the carousel love them. TRP is not 1 man.

[–]MomoUnchained0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter how long they can stay sexy

Wrong. I'm not looking marriage or kids or even a girlfriend. The ONLY thing that matters to me is how attractive she is.

[–]alreadyredschool0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

...

A woman who stays sexy until she hits her 50ies still hits the wall with 30 when she starts looking for a provider then.

[–]MomoUnchained0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is the relevance of saying a woman has "hit the wall" if it doesnt change how I perceive her or how much I want to bang her?

If I'm in a bar I will bang a hot 30 year old as soon as I'd bang a hot 22 yr old so I dont get why nerds on here are constantly shouting about how "OMG shes post wall now!"as if a woman becomes undesirable past some arbitrary number.

Its actually quite silly.

Only 2 types of women exist to me. Attractive and unattractive.

[–]sabresandiego[S] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I completely agree man, and of course you get downvoted. Why would I pick an average looking 22 year old over a smoking hot 33 year old? Just because shes younger, fuck no Ill take the hotter woman who I have more chemistry with. Age does matter, but beauty/chemistry matter more.

[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Eh... I can't agree with 2 at all. Women do start seeing the wall at 25, and hit it at 30. I can tell you right now, I'm simply not interested in girls my age (late 20s) at all. There just isn't anything I like about them, and physically, I can tell that they are at their peak. I personally prefer early 20s girls because they are easier to get by with, less demanding, and still in their prime. It's a win-win.

I just can't see myself with a 28 year old at all. Not a chance. They are just too set in their ways, look to mature, and you can sense the baby craze commitment demanding vibe they give off.

[–]sabresandiego[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That assessment is based on your own young age of 28 though. 28 year old women wont seem old to you at all when you're 35.

[–]lycanthr0py1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

More critical thinking, less group think. We need to avoid herd sickness lest we become the inside out sock of radical feminism. If you want to be a leader - benevolent king or dark triad - you need to understand group think, and TRP is a group like any other.

This is the book to read: The Crowd by Gustave le Bin (bonus, his beard is also formidable). If you aren't swayed by groupthink and the group is, you have the Machiavellian advantage. Do with that what you will.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who wants to get married? I sure as fuck don't, but I enjoy banging chicks half my age. I guess I'm in the top 20% despite being shorter than 6'.

Remember how many beta chumps there are out there who feel lucky to have that wrinkled old hag fucking him twice a month at most. That's the reality for most, they never were in the top 20%, and never will be. Somehow, I was 13 years older than my second wife (slow learner) and have no problem picking up 20 some things that interest me. If anything its gotten easier for me. Might be due to not being a beta chump, and having triple digit notches despite monogamy for 19 of the past 25 years.

Browse all authors
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter