https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/d0mbe3/if_you_want_to_quickly_gauge_how_a_man_feels/

One of the major differences I saw between the female sub and MGTOW, is that men just want to go their own ways, not having much to do with women. While women just want to manipulate men into serving them and inflict injury as much as lawfully possible. Seems like men are MGTOWs out of genuine realization while women are "Female Dating Strategists" just because they're salty for hindrances in their cock carousel.