Conventional dating, even among liberal mindset is basically woman superior to men, men being always inferior part.

Think about a conventional date carefully; the man needs to take the initiative from A-Z. Man must be careful with every single thing he mentions to her, he has to ask her out in the right time, and in the right conversation, make sure not to creep her. Man has to get ready for the date and prepare everything entirely; choose the place carefully to earn her satisfaction, then by the time of the date man needs to make sure to master every skill in life within an hour. Make her laugh, not bore her, ask about her but not too much that he would creep her (not to mention women overuse the ‘creepy’ thing ridiculously and loosely). Also, man must show how interesting he is.

Finally, man needs to pay the entire bill. Otherwise and if he doesn’t, he is going to burn bridges and potentially have her gone for good. On the other hand, what is expected from the woman? Nothing. She is the judge and the player at the same time who was entertained, fed with free food and drinks. In 99% of dates, man needs always to try hard and the woman needs to just either approve or disapprove. Ironically, the approval or disapproval criteria is dramatically flawed and in many cases illogical and even contradictory. Woman, in dating is not required to even bother with any minor steps to show any interesting thing to man. No effort at all.

The stress is imposed and expected only from men. Women don’t care about lines to make a man laugh as much as they want from them, they don’t make sure to make a man feel safe as much as they expect from men. They care about being creeped out, but never think they also can be creepy. They never think about being generous at all but expect all generosity from men.

This post is coming from someone who doesn’t necessarily agree with all r/MGTOW content. And while the experiences I had with the woman I dated not always like I described, yet unfortunately, I experienced it with the vast majority I dated, and heard from most of friends. Women know about this but they dont seem to care as well.