Yes, this is a thing now. Hung out with the brahs recently. Multiple non-MGTOW IRL are telling me that women they thought were in their age group are rejecting them for being too old. None of these guys is over 43, they are all taller than 5'10", all are fit, workout regularly, dress well and are in good health. Most are at least 7's as far as handsomeness goes. All of them own homes or condo's and make plenty of cash. One of them has a small vacation home in Hawaii for fucks sake. None are in debt, none have alimony or child support. I grew up with all but one of these guys and none are cucks. I'd describe them as kind hearted alpha males who subscribe to the silly notion of chivalry, so none have been receptive to the small MGTOW pills I've sprinkled here and there. It's not like these guys are going after 20 year olds, the women they are talking about are IN THEIR EARLY THIRTIES. One told how he had been rejected for being 9 years old than a 32 year old friend of a friend, then 2 others chimed in and said they had similar experiences. Then another said he got rejected by a 29 year old wanna-be college professor because she didn't think their career paths were compatible. He was "only" a high-school graduate building contractor, the guy cleared over $275k last year mind you and owns a 27 acre spread with a big ass house with a garage full of Harley's. These are guys who want to get married and start a family, they aren't looking for flings anymore. All these guys cam easily sport hump young women, but they are going after early 30's women because they are supposed to be more mature, but still have time left to push out a couple of healthy kids. I always thought the general sentiment is that women in their late 20's through early 30's specifically look for men at around 40, since 40-50 is a mans peak value years. Is the 80/20 rule so rigid, that men who are 7's and 8's aren't even considered because of a few years difference in age? Are things so fucked that a man can't get a serious marriage prospect because women are more concerned about his job title than the amount of of money he makes? These successful guys are doing exactly what society keeps pressuring them to do, they are trying to wife up these 30 year old spinsters, but the spinsters don't want them. I've been out of the game for a long time, so I don't really experience this on the ground level. MGTOW guys who still date, is the game this fucked now?

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P.S. Every single one of these guys is now looking outside the USA for a woman, FYI, so if you women still want to know where all the good men went.