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[–]CoinSwapTrader6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
I avoid women who have had an abortion...usually they have more mental issues over time and increased health risks....just more problems to deal with over and above a normal healthy woman." (Women less than 33 years of age who had an abortion were 2.4 times more likely to get breast cancer.)"https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8246284
https://jech.bmj.com/content/jech/44/4/259.full.pdf
[–]cand86-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
From the American Cancer Society:
At this time, the scientific evidence does not support the notion that abortion of any kind raises the risk of breast cancer or any other type of cancer.
[–]CoinSwapTrader2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Do you really think the ACS would go against abortion and feminism? The ACS is a politically correct PR agency for the cancer industry.
[–]cand86-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I mean, did you read the entirety of the link- all the studies they cite that found no link?
[–]CoinSwapTrader1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The percentage of women with no, one, two, and three or more mental health disorders before their first abortion was 37.8%, 19.7%, 15.2% and 27.3%, and before their first childbirth was 57.9%, 19.6%, 9.2%, and 13.3% respectively, indicating that women in the abortion group had more prior mental health disorders than women in the childbirth group, p < .001. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3929105/
[–]cand86-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Wait, did you post the wrong thing? I thought we were talking about breast cancer as it relates to abortion?
[–]CoinSwapTrader1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I spoke of breast cancer AND mental illness!
[–]cand861 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Originally, yes, but my last question to you was a continuation of our discussion relating to breast cancer, with me asking "did you read the entirety of the link- all the studies they cite that found no link?".
[–]CoinSwapTrader0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
However, in a number of studies from all over the world (in the USA, Canada, France, Denmark, Japan, and Israel) abortions, either multiple or occurring before the first full term pregnancy, have been shown to be significantly associated with increased breast cancer risk.
Several studies have suggested a positive association between induced abortion and cancer of the cervix.
[–]cand860 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for that, although it didn't actually answer my question.
[–]DWShimoda0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
the American Cancer Society
They "cherry pick" the things that support their (politically correct) positions; and they ignore everything that contradicts it.
[–]cand861 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I'm more than happy to hear from other recognized organizations who have come to a different conclusion and are willing to cite the studies from which they base those conclusions.
[–]DWShimoda2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You already had studies cited... you ignored them; went with what you preferred.
[–]cand86-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
No, I'm asking for an organization like the American Cancer Society, but one that you feel is not a fraud/farce, that has made the declaration that in their opinion, there is a link between breast cancer and abortion, and provides citations for such.
[–]DWShimoda2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, I'm asking for an organization like the American Cancer Society, but one that you feel is not a fraud/farce,
Ain't no such thing. All such "organizations" exist to MILK the "disease"... not to cure or even reduce it... that would be counterproductive to the continued existence of the organization (and the oh so sweeeeeet salaries & benefits & perks it provides to it's directors & staff).
that has made the declaration
You do comprehend that all such "declarations" are pure bullshit, right?
[–]cand86-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I get the feeling this discussion isn't going to be very productive any longer, but thanks for replying.
[–]DWShimoda-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It never was productive, because you aren't actually interested in answers... just support for your pre-chosen position.
Bye bye Felicia.
[–]cand860 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just don't know how to discuss something with someone who believes that no there is no professional association that can be considered trustworthy . . .
[–]TruthSeekingPerson2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He's saying of women getting abortions most only have 1.
An abortion is a huge red flag if there ever was one.
[–]Atton_Risk0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its more like 3
[–]Im_Talking2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know a girl who had 11 of them.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If telegony was real, men would avoid single mothers as well as women who have had an abortion like the plague. Nobody wants an offspring whose genes he/she inherited from the mother's previous partners, lol.
[–]DWShimoda1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Basically for every 2 kids you see walking around there SHOULD be a third child...
Oh, and don't fall for the line that "there's been a DROP in the number/rate of abortions"... this is entirely predictable simply as a result of the demographic cycle: there are fewer younger millennials than there are older millennials, so of course the number of abortions has gone down (so too have the number of live births).
Add on the additional factor that the "Plan B" abortifacient is now available as an "OTC/Over The Counter" medication (i.e. no prescription required), and while its only supposed to be used "the day after" (etc), in point of fact causes a miscarriage for the first several weeks -- and last numbers I saw, apparently some 6 million packaged had been sold in the USA alone (that probably doesn't mean all 6 million were pregnant, but I rather doubt they all WEREN'T pregnant either).
[–]Atton_Risk-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Birth control fails only because of carelessness by its very nature. Medically the pill is perfect but the there is the element of human error. This doesn't apply to implants and also the abortion rate is 20% of pregnancies within the US.
[–]Atton_Risk-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention in places like vietnam and even eastern europe abortion was literally used as birth control.
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