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Brave Journalist writes defense of Harvey Weinstein

DCrane09

July 14, 2018
4 upvotes
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Asks when enough is enough?

https://usa.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/harvey-weinstein-i-offered-acting-jobs-in-exchange-for-sex-but-so-does-everyone-they-still-do/

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Title Brave Journalist writes defense of Harvey Weinstein
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DCrane09

Upvotes 4
Comments 14
Date July 14, 2018 2:54 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/8yq5cj/brave_journalist_writes_defense_of_harvey/
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Comments

[–]JPaulRaines8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's only wrong because post-wall actresses can't participate anymore.

[–]Shimakaze40 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo. They got old, he didn't want to fuck them or offer them any movie roles anymore so they scream abuse. Fuck off thots, you had your go, time for some new arse.

[–]ConstantChinner6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They should be going after the whores that prostitute themselves for roles. But we know THAT will never happen!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It’s pretty clear that Weinstein didn’t do anything wrong. If wahmen were disgusted about themselves they should have continued to suck it up. They enjoyed a career which was possible due to a guy who was in the situation to be forced to pay for sex. If he would have been a good looking womaniser, most of them wouldn’t get a role in the first place.

It’s typical American wahmen. They push their pussies in your face and tell you they’re still not asking. Like in a cheap Dominatrix BDSM porn.

He didn’t do anything else than other men do. And the wahmen did the same as hookers do. In my country even wahmen have this opinion. For us it’s incomprehensible what’s happening there. All people know that Hollywood is a brothel. It has always been one. So what the fuzz?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh I’m not saying that at all.

The man behaved like a pig and a bully and violated the rules and norms of society. He has many enemies and few friends and that will likely cost him. There’s a difference between being a hard nosed tough busissman and a thug and from what I understand he’s the latter.

Unclear if he actually did anything wrong criminally. I personally wouldn’t find anyone guilty on he said / she said testimony alone, which is all they supposedly have here. My understanding is some actresses are accusing him or sexual assault after being drugged.

I find accusations women make against men to be immediately suspicious, dubious, and likely false. I can’t imagine they have any actual evidence against him. But let’s say they find his supplier of Rohypnol or a bar tender who will testify against him. That might be more persuasive.

Look at what happened to Cosby. The quaaludes were what did him in.

“In his testimony, Cosby admitted to casual sex, involving the recreational use of the sedative methaqualone (Quaaludes), with a series of young women, and acknowledged that his dispensing the prescription drug was illegal.”

If he didn’t admit that in testimony I’d prob find him innocent but by admitting he illegally dispensed mind altering medication to the women he subsequently had sexual relations with, he puts jurors in a tough spot.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Look, if a rape happened, the victim will not meet her rapist for years, continue with whatever she does. This is a big load of bullcrap. If a woman got raped, she goes to hospital and police. Asap. Not 10 years later. It’s either a crime or hurt female feelings. The latter is not a crime. It’s a case for a psychologist. What’s happening now in the anglosaxon world is a case of degeneration of proper jurisdiction. All your values will disappear. Free speech, morals, decency, integrity. It will all be destroyed by attention whores. This process is already in full speed. And there’s still people finding excuses.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In principle I agree with you but we have statue of limitations that vary by crime. Aggravated sexual assault might have a longer term in which charges can be brought up than others. I should also note many of Harvey’s accusers actually did go to the police in California and New York over the past years but the prosecutors there decided not to pursue charges at that time. New York actually ran a sting operation on Harvey and the tape of this sting op was released. https://video.newyorker.com/watch/harvey-weinstein-caught-on-tape. However no charges were pursued at that time.

The thing is only like 1-25% of crimes end up with a conviction and someone behind bars. If there isn’t enough evidence prosecutors rarely pursue a trial. If there’s some evidence they negotiate a plea deal where the defendant is spared a trial but admits to guilt for a lesser crime.

What happened here is the New York prosecutors saw the number of accusations add up and finally decided to pursue criminal charges against Harvey. As long as the statue of limitations isn’t expired the prosecutors can charge Harvey for these alleged crimes even if they happened many years ago.

You have to understand like literally 90 women are accusing Harvey of misconduct. Maybe a dozen of them pursued charges with NY or California. Most of these accusations aren’t criminal, but some are (I was drugged and raped). You are right famous actresses like Uma Thermon sucked it up and didn’t say anything to keep working and getting the benefit of their association with Harvey but other women did.

Look I’m just saying it’s entirely possible this man was a sexual predator and did commit crimes.

Chad Hardwick is an example of a guy who did nothing wrong.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see your point. Bit guilt isn’t about democracy. Whether there is one or 100 accusations doesn’t matter. If I am a woman and got raped, I don’t let myself pay for not telling anyone (what they did), and later on I say it was rape. They had benefits and consumed them. That’s prostitution at best. What kind of morals is behind that? And how will this change society? Women have every right to accuse anyone over social media, ruining a due process environment and than they kill the cow they were milking. This is going to backfire big time. Don’t you see a problem in this?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree that Approximately 75 of the 90 women got their movie deal and whored themselves out for it. That isn’t rape and is never claim it was. Might be time for Hollywood to fix that quid pro quo on their own accord because they all seem to be getting away with it while the rest of us, less connected, and without access to fixers who bribe our accusers to go away, suffer.

It’s tough to say how he’ll fare in a trial in Manhattan NY. It will probabally come down to evidence he drugged any women. He might be found guilty even without that but we’ll see. Right now I’m guessing he’ll be acquitted.

He’s only being charged because the state of New York has a new Attorney General, a woman. The last Attorney General, Scheiderman, resigned in disgrace after it was revealed he liked playing master/slave sex games with brown skinned female subordinates. I think of the last five New York Governors and Attorney Generals like 4 out of 5 we’re forced out of their jobs for some sort of misconduct. What’s going on now is the woman AG is making a show to try to preserve the Democrat party’s machine politics control of New York City. Keep in mind that the AG is an elected position. They run a campaign just like the Governor does.

Don’t ever underestimate how fucking sick and corrupt American society is, especially in the big northeast and west coast cities. If you want true law and order justice you need to visit the heartland like Wichita Kansas or Dallas Texas

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So it’s obviously a sexist trial.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Kinda. I think there’s no question charged were filed because the AG is a woman. A grand jury was empaneled to decide there was enough evidence to charge Harvey (this is just an optional bit of cover so that if Harvey is acquitted it’s not the failure of the DA for deciding to pursue charges she couldn’t win). The judge presiding over the grand jury is male and also declined to have Harvey jailed until trial.

The grand jury is continuing to review other allegations against Harvey for sexual crimes and also bribing or intimidating accusers.

Harvey will get input on the 12 member jury of his peers that will judge his guilt or innocence. He’s also able to afford the best lawyers out there.

The actual charges being filed can be read about here. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/06/05/617095337/harvey-weinstein-pleads-not-guilty-to-rape-charges

More about the case as it stands now. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/weinstein-lawyers-conference-judge-closed-meeting-article-1.4015233

My read is that the charges of rape are too hard and will be difficult to prove, which is why I think he’ll be acquitted.

For what it’s worth you all know how I feel about women. I’m also a law and order guy. I think what they are doing with Harvey is the right thing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks bro. Will read it.

[–]sir_monkfish0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Taki isn't brave.

He's Taki, international man of mystery, playboyism and name dropping.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taki_Theodoracopulos

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. Sure looks the part. I was stunned reading this. Waiting for the blowback on Taki

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