What are your views on muslim women/ orthodox jewish women?

2018-06-09T19:15:34+00:00

AWALT

ImmortanV8 · 2018-06-09T19:20:08+00:00

If they pretend to be religious, they are quite probably hypocrites

cycloneous · 2018-06-09T19:27:24+00:00

OP, the problem isn't women of these cultures. The problem is the invasion of the Marxist / third wave feminism that is invading every culture on this planet and turning women into FemiNAZIS. Every thing was fine and dandy until modern day feminism invaded Western culture, and flipped what feminism was about on its head. I was cool feminism until they started that hate all men nonsense, changing gender roles, and now it has invaded these cultures, too.

This ideology is convincing women that they can have their cake and eat it without understanding the change and damage it is doing in gender roles. Worse yet? Women, especially in the West and America have bought into it, and we're seeing the backlash of it with the rise of MGTOW, RPs, and men just saying WTF!!!! So now, this feminism has breeded a culture in women that makes AWALT the moment they come into contact with modern day feminism and Marxist ideology.

I feel sorry for the men of these cultures from what is coming their way; they have no idea how bad it is going to get for the crime of being born a boy. This is just me, I may get modded down for this, but this is what I believe is happening and going to happen.

bluepiller555 · 2018-06-09T19:43:34+00:00

I am religiously Jewish and not orthodox, but I'm faniliar with that world and it's ways, so I feel I'm qualified to weigh in. I am not talking about Hassidic women, who are ridiculously repressed to the point it's just painful. But in the orthodox world, women are pretty much on equal footing with men, but men and women also have more clearly defined roles and obligations. For instance, a woman will often only allow her husband to see her with her hair uncovered, they'll never show any leg, and there is a huge emphasis on modesty. In such cases where the couple is observant to that degree, they will also never be in a room behind a closed door with a person of the opposite sex to whom they are not married or related, and that applies to the man and the woman, so there are those safeguards. At the orthodox social functions I've been to, yes, the women usually took care of the food and the kitchen work, and they do NOT appreciate the men nosing into it even if the men mean to be helpful. The kitchen was their domain where they shared each other's company and they liked it that way. They usually come off as well adjusted. But this is not to say that the Jewish world, as with any other, doesn't have it's share of domestic strife, dovorce, etc. same as any other community, though I hope it would be much less. When it comes to dating, arranged marriages are very rare, but parents are often involved and may suggest to their kid that they meet xys's son or daughter. If their kid agrees, then they will go to one of the parent's houses with their parents in tow and all the parents will sit in the kitchen and have coffee while the young man and woman will sit on the couch in the living room and talk. The potential couple will certainly pay attention to if there's general compatibility or even a spark, but they'll usually keep the conversation to the matter of what they want out of life, how many kids they want, their degree of observance, etc. If they do not seem to be a good match, they will tell this to their parents after the meeting and it's no sour grapes, and they'll do this again with another potential partner until a match is found. If the couple want to see each other again, then they will tell the parents and then they may go on a date in public like to dinner or a movie. Sex will not be involved and in fact they may nto even touch until they get married. There is no sport dating in this arena, if it doesn't look like they are a compatible match, they move on. But usually if they are suitably attracted they will get married in about two months. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. I do, however, know of several couples who met this way and the attraction was strong and definite, they got married a few weeks later. One of the orthodox men I know said his mother came to him one day and told him that a young woman who saw him from across the parking lot at synagogue was interested in meeting him and had asked her parents to arrange an intro, so my friend agreed and his mom set it up. They had the couch date, hit it off, and were married soon afterwards. A person can also simply tell their friends that they are interested in marriage and then the friends will refer people of the opposite sex to them and they'll then go on tame public dates with that person, but if it doesn't look like a good match after a short while, they quickly move on. Even in the not-orthodox community, matchmaking is still alive, well and practiced all the time. I always have women telling me I should meet their daughter, and they'll be sitting with them at xyz seat in the synaggogue next week and I should come over and intro myself, or they'll ask if I want to meet their daughter and then ask for my number. This is not considered meddling and is looked at as a legit way to meet others of the opposite sex. Also, every synagoge has someone who is a matchmaker, who is good at knowing who will most likely be happy with who. We should all be so lucky to have such people in our communities, right? If you appeal to the matchmaker for a match, they'll act as a go-between and help arrange a date, describe the people to each other before they meet without names being mentioned, and if they both agree, they are put in touch and arrange a date. If it doesn't work out, then they'll try again until there's a good match. This is considered a perfectly legit way to meet someone and it happens all the time. It also means that you stay out of the dating arena until you mean business and are seeking a wife, so you are saving yourself the horrors of years of soul-griding groping in the dark, random hookups, wasted time, etc. that many of us have done. And why not have the help of parents, friends and matchmakers? The general male/female gyst of things in that world is that there is no overfamiliarity between the sexes, modesty is highly prized as a virtue, their lives are about community so a couple do not have the stress in their marriage of relying on each other as their exclusive source of a social life either, everyone has gender roles to fulfill, and the women, in their own way, also get to make the moves towards the men they like. I hope this helps.

Emanresu_rouy_esoohc · 2018-06-09T19:27:00+00:00

They are all the same. They use religion as a shield to protect themselves from criticism and to socialize with each other. Bring a middle eastern muslim woman to the western world and she turns to a generic western woman after a couple of weeks. (depends on her ability to speak the language of the host country)

CapnPoot · 2018-06-09T21:10:57+00:00

Am part of the modern orthodox communities of NJ/NY. There is far less whorishness because of shaming (although still a lot, and the good ole poophole loophole that Jewish girls seem to love is alive and well).

The downside is that these girls are 10x more entitled and materialistic than the average girl. Majority of them have 0 to offer, but walk around thinking they are princesses, because they are daddy’s little girl. They are also mostly psycho, and mostly mentally unstable. Majority cant cook for their lives, and they look for a beta bux a lot sooner than non-jews.

2018-06-09T19:20:38+00:00

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1rUn2j1hLOo

MSP_Generalist · 2018-06-09T19:42:18+00:00

Really, I'm unsure just what about ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT that's just too difficult to comprehend.

Perhaps a diagram:

 AWALT: 100% [====================================] NAWALT: 0% []

Title	What are your views on muslim women/ orthodox jewish women?
Author	Bobodzadza
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Date	June 9, 2018 7:05 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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