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[–]Zenly 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Now THAT's a shitpost

[–]Teen-Ninja-Turtle[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

" WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ! !! ! !! ~~ }> }":> >}#_K#%&#)(%* ^ "" " "

[–]ThePanther992 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unnecessary post title but interesting video. She must of been on her period.

[–]Teen-Ninja-Turtle[S] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Check out the jittery wench at 3:17

[–]_Alasdair2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Christian God is a just and righteous God.

He doesn't care about feelings like so many want to believe.

[–]trouble_with_trilbys2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Responding seriously to the issue of preachers "saying-mean-things-about-hell-and-that-doesn't-feel-right":

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Men understand the idea of risk. So men understand the idea of loss. The theological concept of hell is a concept of absolute loss. Which means that religious faith is the idea of absolute risk, with the corresponding notion of maximum gain (e.g. heaven). It's a male risk-reward cost-analysis.

This is similar to Pascal's Wager (but not really the same, because the Wager was more of an argument from personal perspective, rather than a statistical argument).

You'll often see similar arguments by atheists: "there are thousands of gods you don't believe in, what are you losing by not believing in one more?"

People's understanding of the idea of hell is a good litmus test for their ability to deal with risk.

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What you see in this video is a woman arguing that "lifestyle evangelism" (living as if you are a Christian, which is works-based not faith-based) is preferable to the alternative "knowledge evangelism" (which is arguably gnostic-cultic, and fails contextual arguments):

and I agree that the preacher is presenting a clear (but very simplistic and intellectually vapid) argument for Christian salvation.

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This shows how feminism has corrupted church doctrine with "feeling-theology" over "thinking-theology." There are historical reasons for this.

IMO, it started with the Roman Catholic notion of the sinless birth of Mary, and progressed into her pseudo-goddessness.

This also progressed through German liberal Protestant theologians like Schliermacher who based God upon an emotive connection.

Liberal theology tends to presuppose that the Bible is fundamentally a book of facts or fictions, similar to conservative theologians (but not necessarily Eastern or Roman theologians). For example, "WWJD" ("What Would Jesus Do" campaign) touted by conservatives originates in liberal social-justice ideas.

But ultimately, how you feel in both types of theology is more important than whether you are right or wrong.

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Feminism is a fertility cult that blindly worships the notion of abundance (e.g. Marxist utopianism), instead of understanding the idea of economic scarcity (which modern economics is based upon).

Failure is not allowed in feminism. It is a taboo.

So the idea that eventually everyone will just get along (in heaven) leads to the slippery-slope idea that everything is god (pantheism). Why would we need heaven if everything on earth can never fail but just get better and better? Women become worshiped animistically or polytheistically as examples of Gaia (Earth-ecology feminism).

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It's important to remember that the original doctrine of Mary's perpetual virginity meant that the ideal female was to be kept pure and non-sexually active except in a strictly-defined way. This turns the idea of fertility cults on its head. Fertility cults would argue that the ideal female was one that perpetually copulated. And because women are an idealization of fertility, they never make mistakes (thus reproductive and divorce law off-loading costs onto men).

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Thus, the battle for "sexual liberation" and "free love" and reproductive totalitarianism.

This is a battle between fertility cultists and male concepts of monotheism.

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Progressive liberals now argue for magical thinking ("the marvels of science and society!" as wish-fulfillment without understanding how science or society works). Classical liberal concepts would argue for process (scientific method) and fixing problems (modernism, objective truth), rather than just finding things to complain about (post-modernism, semiotics).

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IMO, "Death of God" theology from the 1960s is the place to start if you want to know where the inflection-point was between modern feminism and masculinism. Both evangelical conservatives and liberals are guilty of this.

So conservatives are cheap car-salesmen for God (thrilled by imaginary risks), and liberals are shills for inclusive theology that is womb-like (everyone belongs automatically, rigidly enforced).

This is gynocentric. Tradcons and fems are really two sides of the same coin.

[–]Teen-Ninja-Turtle[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow good stuff. I fully agree with your religio-historical perspective

The post-modern way of life is a life without history, without contexts, without any notions of risk or reward or sacrifice or hope or glory, only pure human feeling.

So conservatives are cheap car-salesmen for God (thrilled by imaginary risks), and liberals are shills for inclusive theology that is womb-like (everyone belongs automatically, rigidly enforced).

This is gynocentric. Tradcons and fems are really two sides of the same coin.

This preacher in particular though isn't gynocentric, as he doesn't argue that women should necessarily have children if they don't want to (although they should if they don't have any plans to actually do anything useful in society), but should marry in order to avoid Earthly temptations

I would say that Christian "Godness" in an Earthly life can be either defined through marriage to another or marriage to God Himself (and to me this doesn't entail some perverse notion of perfection, but to be humble and forgiving but also passionate and righteous)

[–]trouble_with_trilbys1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

This preacher in particular though isn't gynocentric, as he doesn't argue that women should necessarily have children if they don't want to (although they should if they don't have any plans to actually do anything useful in society), but should marry in order to avoid Earthly temptations ...

Gynocentrism focuses on women and the power of their fertility. It doesn't necessarily mean that these women utilize their fertility for childbirth. Only that they use it to control sex and gain advantages from sexual consequences (in traditional religious conservatism, this means marriage).

I also speculate that this is why you see many women who are obese: not merely from a loss of sensual self-control, but also as a tribal marker displaying perpetual "pregnancy" (and thus, fertility cult worship).

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I would say that Christian "Godness" in an Earthly life can be either defined through marriage to another or marriage to God Himself (and to me this doesn't entail some perverse notion of perfection, but to be humble and forgiving but also passionate and righteous)

The problem with this view of Christian "godliness" in our earthly life is that I don't believe it is biblically-supported. There are two major theological camps regarding the status of women in marriage: egalitarianism and complementarianism.

Egalitarians say that women and men are equal on both their roles and possible outcomes within marriage (they are somewhat social constructivists). This is akin to a soft form of feminism.

Complementarians say that women and men have valid differing roles which act to reciprocate and support each other (where one is weak the other is strong and vice-versa; they are somewhat essentialists). Both men and women rely upon each other for spiritual completion to truly represent the image of God (similar to a "soulmate" concept found in Greek philosophy). This is another wrong-headed idea of conservatives that has led to the heretical eternal subordination theory of trinitarian monotheism (ESS).

I see it differently: I think there is good biblical textual support for what I would call "supplementarianism." The reason the woman was created from the man in Genesis was because she is a "helpmate" in the sense of being a derivative from male spirituality, not because she was lesser or greater or equal. Woman was created indirectly out of the image of man, not directly out of the image of God (imago dei).

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This sounds similar to traditional (Protestant) theology but it isn't. Traditional theology would say that the marital relationship was either sacramental (a spiritual vocation) or covenantal (a spiritual agreement) in front of God.

I would say that a woman is superfluous to the man. If the man has a spiritual sense of God's fair judgment in heaven, then perhaps egalitarianism might be maritally feasible. If a man has a spiritual sense of God's righteous hierarchy, then perhaps complementarianism might be feasible.

But these beliefs are established because the man has the spiritual insight to enable them or forbid them. So the woman is not lesser, greater, equal or different than the man; she is simply a psychological, emotional and spiritual extension of the man's image of himself.

And this is obviously the problem, because men have very poor images of themselves. So women are having a harder time of trying to match themselves "Chameleon-like" to any man they meet, either to extract resources or to genuinely seek to be better than themselves.

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I have met several women that have said "I really knew them (mentally)" when they were simultaneously trying to extract resources and develop themselves as human beings (it was both dangerous flattery and delusional flirtation).

Women really don't understand how to separate their self-image from their fertility. They project their problems onto men to avoid responsibility. Men transfer (psychological transference theory) their mental wholeness and well-being onto women. So women consciously wash their hands of their own behavior, while men are unconsciously crippled by their dependence upon women.

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So Christianity is not essentially patriarchal in an authoritarian sense of feminist "patriarchy": what man would want to rule over a woman as part of the original curse upon humanity? Most women are more trouble than they are worth. Christianity has supposedly banished the dead letter of the law. Women should seek an understanding of male spirituality from Christ himself.

I will say that in my own marriage, I tried but never found that an egalitarian relationship model worked. I also never found a situation where my wife didn't ultimately break any possibility of a complementary relationship when trying to work together.

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Until men have a good sense of their own spiritual value, I believe that marriage will continue to be devalued by the behavior of women.

MGTOW Xn for the win.

[–]Sub-Sero3 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Muh religion. It's a great control system when it can wake the flame of believers to slaughter the unbelievers and degenerates who decay society. It did not do this in the 50s and onwards so now we are surrounded by the cancer that it allowed to fester. For this reason religion in terms of society control has lost it's power and will never come back.

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