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MGTOW: Denial of natural biological order or virtue in disguise?

Im_Justin_Cider

January 10, 2015

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Title	MGTOW: Denial of natural biological order or virtue in disguise?
Author	Im_Justin_Cider
Upvotes	0
Comments	8
Date	January 10, 2015 11:04 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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[–]kuropon83 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Im_Justin_Cider[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]antarel2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[+]Im_Justin_Cider[S] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

A man can impregnate 1000 women...

This is a true statement.

You only need 1 man for every 1000 women. You can safely dispose of the other 999 men, and not harm population numbers.

These are not true; and it is a bullshit fallacy that is oft repeated, but demonstrably false.

You see children not only need to be conceived, gestated and born... they also need to be raised successfully to maturity, and not merely reproductive maturity (although even that requires a LOT of resources -- more than women alone can typically provide)...

But they also need to be raised and INSTRUCTED to full adult maturity such that they will be capable of doing so with the following generation.

Lots of hogwash has been posited that "well with modern technology, and things like government welfare (or "it takes a village" etc etc yada yada) -- but that is really a very IGNORANT (i.e. lacking in knowledge of what is really going on) view. Said technology did not simply "magically" appear, and it will not "magically" continue on it's own...

And despite all of the feminist bullshit -- having worked with women who TRY to get into the industries and technical professions -- well women (sans men) would not even be able to maintain it.

The same can not be said for women.

Actually since -- if they start early enough -- even a single woman can give birth to a dozen children over time (provided someone ELSE is helping to feed and raise them); and that a successive generation can begin having children as well before the first mother is even done...

Population numbers can easily be increased at an exponential rate.

Women (as a collective group) AREN'T all that.

Which is why I said it's as proven as evolution is

Sorry hun, but "just so stories" crafted around evolution are not fact... they are speculation (and normally just bullshit ones at that).

[–]Im_Justin_Cider[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll repeat myself... [...] I said that on a base biological imperatives level (and going no further) men can be viewed as disposable

And I will repeat my statement, and I will simplify it so that there is a chance you might comprehend it:

Your posited "biological imperatives level" is a ridiculously inane, and inherently misleading oversimplification -- it takes a very narrow even "blindered" approach -- and then fraudulently attempts to extrapolate the effect seen to a far wider conclusion, blatantly ignoring everything else.

and this is the basis for women treating us as if we are, which in turn eventually becomes the complex myriad of gender politics

No, it's a piece of pseudo-scientific bullshit -- ripped out of it's context -- and is then USED (as a "rationale") by people who in fact have entirely different motives.

we see parallels of this in the animal kingdom

People often "see" things that "appear to be" what they WANT to see.
this line of reasoning is nearly always fallacious, in no small part because it (ironically, and in a self-contradictory fashion) denies the very existence of the human brain.

I cant see where I have any broken logic in my theory.

This is obvious (that you cannot "see" it). But that you are unable (or unwilling) to see it -- given the context of your "narrow/blindered" and "colored glass" world view -- does not mean that it does not exist; because there are a host of errors present, chiefly in your base assumptions.

Again, I'm not calling men worthless.

Yes... in fact you are. You are reducing men to the level of a set of testicles attached to an insertion device. (You may not have directly posited keeping a single male as a captive lobotomized "sperm machine", but you have only stopped short of doing so -- of claim that the human race {and civilization} COULD survive and be maintained in such a form -- and that is not only ridiculous bullshit, but it is woefully ignorant bullshit.)

[–]thrownaway_MGTOW2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link