How do you deal with women (or any other human being) who always uses your own sex drive against you?

me_and_batman · 2016-06-21T07:00:10+00:00

I don't deal with them. I ignore their bullshit.

victor_knight · 2016-06-21T14:38:46+00:00

Tell them you're fucking escorts who are 9's and 10's and they don't stick around after you're done. That should get the message across. ;)

SpaceObama · 2016-06-21T15:29:18+00:00

You need to find a higher purpose in life.

I'm not talking about religion (although religion ain't bad if that's your thing). I mean you need to define, for yourself, what the story of your life is going to be.

Understand that your friends and family probably have your best interests at heart when they are making these comments, even if they come across as glib. They don't want to see you become a bitter old man. They don't realize that a man can lead a completely fulfilled life without raising a family. They don't realize that a single man can contribute to society, contribute to community, contribute to culture. They don't realize that legendary men have, historically, been of a MGTOW nature.

Don't tell your friends/family about these legendary men. You need to BE A LEGEND YOURSELF.

If you don't know what your personal legend will be, start by contributing to your community. Become a Big Brother. Go help feed the homeless. Did you just buy a sweet HTC Vive rig with all the money you've saved? Pack it up and go down to an old folks home and blow some elderly people's minds. Give Old Ethel a go at TiltBrush and I bet YOUR mind will be blown. You can leverage your interests in a way that can improve the lives of those around you, whatever your interests are.

So next time your friends start giving you a hit for being single, you can simply reply that you are so busy improving yourself and the world around you that you simply have no time for woman. Make your friends feel like shit for JUST having a girl/boyfriend. If you are MGTOW, this should be an absolute truth. Make it part of your personal ethos.

The biggest trap I see for men going MGTOW is men leading an unfulfilled life. If you hit 40 or 50 years old and realize that you spent all of your time playing video games and smoking pot, it's easy to see how you might break and take a wife in seach of fulfillment. Be a community leader and a contributer to society.

Don't let MGTOW be an excuse to be a loser.

2016-06-21T14:58:13+00:00

Walk away.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-06-21T16:52:41+00:00

If you want to fuck, go fuck.

If you don't want to fuck, don't fuck.

Your family wants you to spread your genes. Your body your choice.

If your friends keep giving you shit then get new friends.

oldredder · 2016-06-21T07:17:29+00:00

No woman has such power over me. My sex drive is under my full control.

2016-06-21T14:32:13+00:00

I have run into this before.

"Yo TV, wanna hookup?"

"Sorry, I don't like girls."

"Oh! I didn't know you were gay."

"I'm not gay."

"oh... ummm... OH!"

:)

User-31f64a4e · 2016-06-21T17:57:59+00:00

You give four examples of shaming language. Once upon a time men were proficient in verbal self defense (and physical), but so many are emasculated now that I guess we need a tutorial.

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One possibility for dealing with this is - a disinterested profession of possibility.

"Are you gonna wait till your dick falls off?" - "I don't know, could be."

"Are you asexual?" - "A sexual what?" (OK, I can't resist being an occasional smartass) or "Dunno, could be" or even "You might be right, I might be."

"Are you ever gonna start a family" - "Maybe."

Neither actually confirm nor deny. The message isn't so much your response, as your total DISINTEREST in the question and your total unconcern over either resolution/answer. You are rejecting their shame attempt, not head on, but by answering in an implicitly dismissive manner.

This works best if you actually don't give a fuck about what they think or about the accusation. That will come through in your tone and body language.

This is related to what is called "amused mastery" in PUA circles.

I was watching an old Rawhide episode (S01E01, Incident of the Tumbleweed) where the trail boss Gil Favor kept getting told by a female prisoner that "He's gonna kill you" or "That won't work" or whatever. She was always criticizing. Each time he told her, in a totally disinterested and unconcerned manner, something like "Could be" or "You might be right" or "Maybe." He just kept doing what he was doing, and was utterly unconcerned about her bullshit. He was utterly flat-affected when he answered because he was answering just out of politeness. He didn't take her seriously, so he was not emotionally affected by her claims.
By answering that she might be right, instead of getting drawn into some stupid dispute where he tried to justify his actions, he won every time. She had nothing to squabble over - he had sort of agreed with her, but dismissed her at the same time. He was showing her that he did not owe her proof he was right, or that his course of action was best. He just did his thing and didn't take her objections seriously.

Back to your family. Since they have no authority on how you live your life, there is no reason you have to justify your values, beliefs or actions. Just brush off their bullshit, the same way the guy in Rawhide did. If you do that a few times, they'll start to realize that you are your own man, and that you don't really care what their advice is. They will realize that you can't be shamed. They will switch tactics, or give up entirely.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2016-06-21T21:28:25+00:00

As said below - I ignore most of the bull-shit, i stay away from echo-chambers and the angry-sphere, as arguing with feminists, worker drones, servants, blind people and most non-mgtows, while often good to challenge yourself, will ultimately get you nowhere, and you are just feeding the trolls. Whether we are talking blue pill men, or women, they don't and won't accept MGTOW, even if you just say "I don't date to protect myself." I treat most of them like trolls, and in my head, I see women as dead-weight to civilization (ie, construction, maintenance, and meaningful progress, be it scientific or philosophical), and i also see them as rapists, and those fuckers are everywhere :D

Ps - if your friends are dicks and won't accept you for who you are, then I suggest you learn to accept yourself for who you are, and then go find new friends. The straight MGTOW and MGTOW minded friends I have (not online friends) are worth their weight in gold, and networking and enjoying my life with th as been fucking superb, and this is if u can even find any MGTOW minded men, or wake any other men up (though most men resent trying to be waked up). And whether you have MGTOW friends or not is irrelevant. I started this journey alone, and it will end alone, but a few men happened to have followed in my foot steps, and the freedom we have found hasn't just enriched our lives individually, but also our friendships. It's nice havig dudes who won't turn their backs on you for their wives and girlfriends and other shackles, as typically men turn their backs to the world for women and their own base biology and all te servitude that entails.

mgtow_eagle · 2016-06-22T12:37:32+00:00

Fight for the legalization of prostitution.

mgtown · 2016-06-21T12:31:56+00:00

Challenge them by asking for a financial argument to having a girlfriend.

I've done this and find that not only do they not have an answer, but they try to act as if money doesn't matter. And then they blow on ahead with a lot of their own assumptions.

You can tell a lot about people by their attitudes toward money.

IAmNotAlwaysRight · 2016-06-21T16:19:29+00:00

Nothing wrong with having sex just protect yourself. sexual discipline actually gets you more sex in the long run because you are thinking with your head and not your penis. A powerful mind gets you everything you want in life.

2016-06-22T13:07:37+00:00

tl;dr - a steaming load of shaming crap.

These people have only the power over you that you allow.

2016-06-26T06:30:19+00:00

Just worry about you man. Fuck the world! If you have a high sex drive, just go on PornHub.

Title	How do you deal with women (or any other human being) who always uses your own sex drive against you?
Author	Vergil387
Upvotes	11
Comments	24
Date	June 21, 2016 5:56 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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