Feminism, why are people against it?

goodbeertimes · 2017-10-07T04:58:26+00:00

Because it's not really about equality anymore, is it? If it was, I'd embrace it. It's not even about women's rights, since you don't really see 3rd wave feminists taking on sharia law, or exploitation of female labor in the developing world, or female genital mutilation in Africa, or attitudes about women expressed in rap lyrics. It's about shrieking at white males, seeking grievances over nothing, and celebrating degeneracy. It's privileged women in the first world haranguing those who are taught that it's wrong to defend themselves, and that they are to blame for all the world's ills.

roofsplosion · 2017-10-09T17:32:00+00:00

The problem with feminism is that, in it's ACTUAL form, it is very very toxic and does not hold any of the standards and beliefs that it idly claims it does. Feminism in it's hypothetical sense is not toxic or bad at all. In fact, some of the things it loosely claims to want to improve would be good to work on. However, and what makes it extremely toxic is:

It has no actual unity or direction. Like most social justice groups, it does not have any unity orleadership. This means that any sort of idea, variation, or direction can be born from it. You can guess how this has poorly effected the movement.
It lacks any logical guiding. For every argument a feminist throws up, I can guarantee it has a shit ton of logical fallacies backing it. A lot of the problems that feminists claim to exist are purely subjective and anecdotally driven. This leads us to point 3.
It blames ALL of women's problems and shortcomings directly on men. Going back to my point above, it attempts to paint the world as still being strictly patriarchal. This simply isn't how it is in the 1st world anymore. The true underlying issue is more often than not the fact that women are the blame for their own short-comings and problems in society. I am NOT talking about more serious topics such as sexual assault and rape, but typical claims of "under-representation" in certain professional settings just as an example.
Building off of 3, it overwhelmingly tries to paint men as extremely sinister and diabolical individuals out to get women. In 2017, thanks to 3rd wave feminism, simply complimenting a woman could gain you a status as a potential rapist or sex offender. And I'm not talking about sexually explicit comments wich ARE wrong. Simply calling a woman beautiful could send you in that direction. This is because a lot of feminists have started to use the term, "objectification", which basically means that if you find a woman attractive in anyway and let this drive you in some of your interactions with them, you are objectifying them, aka: Viewing or treating them as nothing but an object. This way of thinking is further made toxic by ridiculous things like the idea of "mansplaining", which is sadly an actual thing. It purports, basically, that ANY explanation a man gives for why he may have done something is nothing but an excuse and is automatically null in favor for an anecdotal and/or subjective explanation given by feminists, usually in attempt to make his intentions look far more sinister.

Even worse, feminism actively teaches and instills in people from a young age that a good majority of men and even boys are perverted degenerates or have a strong possibility of being so without strict curbing. This way of looking at things appeared rather early on in the 20th Century, long before 3rd wave feminism, but feminism is only making it worse, and actively keeping it alive.

2017-10-07T16:19:49+00:00

I think there are many people who believes in equallity but not feminists

sargentspliff · 2017-10-09T04:52:59+00:00

In short, it no longer represents the "it's about equality", I think you'll find most people vehemently against 3rd wave Feminism will support 1st and 2nd wave Feminism. Ironically and tragically it not only no longer perpetuates "gender equality" but has become the very monster it was created to fight, they propose a lot of misandrist ideas or just down right stupid ones.

Dostayer · 2017-10-11T23:02:56+00:00

It's giving precedents for emotions over rational, like there's more than one truth for example, and it is really Marxist by its ideology.

censoredandagain · 2017-10-07T06:57:05+00:00

I'm not, I'm against being called everything under the sun because of presumptions about how I do things.

ItzTepix · 2017-10-09T22:01:50+00:00

Counter question. In the western world currently, what are some issues that plague women that feminism is going to fix? I’d like a specific list please, don’t just say “social equality”. I’m willing to hold a civil conversation if you are.

PolychromaticRem · 2017-10-28T02:50:49+00:00

Then why is feminism still around

Title	Feminism, why are people against it?
Author	armouredracoon
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Date	October 7, 2017 3:55 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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