Have you known guys who act like it’s easy to get laid or like they have a lot of success but they steadily fuck average-ugly chicks?

I’m sorry, that doesn’t count. If you’re just looking to fire one off, yeah sure do what you’ve gotta do, we all have.

But these guys think they are players. Most of them have some desirable traits in the form of physical attractiveness, game or status/wealth, yet are still forced to settle for well below their SMV in order to satisfy their basic primal urges.

My problem is when they diminish or outright deny the fact that they are being forced to compromise and insist that they are in control, when they obviously aren’t.

I have several friends like this, but I’ve exhausted the conversation to no avail. Unfortunately getting laid at all to some guys is enough to fuel an insurmountable inflated ego and delude them into thinking this isn’t a huge farce.

That’s my problem with the term incel. There is a large population of men who are very desirable but simply unwilling to settle for women they aren’t attracted to. Even the term volcel carries a similarly maligned stigma implying some sort of flaw or shortcoming on behalf of the man, when that is not the case at all. Women refuse to settle, why can’t men?