It's "Men Going Their Own Way". We've taken that to mean a few detrimental things such as ... (A) abstaining from relationships with women. (B) not making groups with other men to overcome issues with women. (C) it's for straight alpha males and not for the LGBTQ+ community or men who struggle with women. (D) men can't complain about women and it's only themselves they should worry about.

Hell, these may all be the basis of the MGTOW movement, but goddamn are they detrimentally flawed, useless ideals. However ...

Here is a case to be made against these detrimental preconceptions: A) You should pursue relationships with women. Or at least try. Deep down it's what you want, you just can't help that women suck and there aren't any good ones.

B) We should make male groups. Think about it. -MGTOW is already a group, for one. You aren't doing yourself a service by coming on here and pretending to be independent and need nobody. You NEED SOMEBODY. That's why you came on here to post something for other men to recognize it on MGTOW2. So let's unify my more and actually form friendships.

C) Let's face it, MGTOW exists because men have trouble getting women. A widespread societal epidemic of men not being able to get women has led to this. Women are too selfish and picky. Therefore, men need each other since women only care about themselves and only use men who can provide the most for them materially and sexually. -If you are on MGTOW you are already in incel territory my friend. Denying it only makes it worse. Men need other men, not only for support, but for affection nowadays. So Bisexual, Gay, or perhaps Bicurious should be okay. Or just platonic male affection at the very least, be open to it. (YOU NEED AFFECTION). That's why MGTOW2 should support the LGBTQ+ community. Hell, get on r/Bromance if you need to and brag about meaningful male relationships you found there on MGTOW2. Why the hell not? And let's all support each other. You may not think it helps, but it does. How we spend our time affects how society functions. If more men are cuddling other men and beautifying themselves accordingly, that is less lonely men complimenting women on dating sites leading to more male loneliness because women get compliments from lonely men and feel no need to talk to men. Also, there is safety in numbers. Multiple men who feel attractive together can go out and get women more easily. If a girlfriend leaves you, you always have your male friend to fall back on until she comes back (Because they always do if you aren't begging or needing them)

D) So, this is the most important. Why can't we complain about a societal issue that we face? The reason women are so comfortable being selfish without feeling guilty is because they get no societal backlash. Women use shaming tactics because that's what they understand. But we should complain about important things that solve the societal problems men face such as - How women don't ask men out, women don't pay for dates, women expect men to be emotionless and never complain and always be the main contributor to relationships, ...etc. We should demand that women step up. We should demand that women man up while we support each other more and beautify ourselves.

Hope that puts MGTOW into a better perspective. Remember to love yourself and love other men. I bid you good'ay.