exactly as the title says. commented that men should pay child support for kids they make and help raise them and i get banned. i thought mgtow was about excepting female nature and simply choosing to live your life on your own terms by not chaining yourself with a wife. seriously when did the main sub go from guys trying to become the best versions of themselves to women bashing and making out every man is perfect? news flash there shitty men and shitty women.