Gentlemen one thing Ive noticed is that there is an argument that is brought up. If you are truly mgtow why do you talk about women so much? Heres the truth, not every guy here has learned the discipline or the self control a lot of the more expeirenced men have. In fact many are new to the concept of going their own way.
When I mean self control, Im talking about our own impulse and drive to reproduce. Which is incredible some of us even reached that point of monk mode or being able to not make stupid decisions.
The desire to pass on one's seed is the most powerful impulse in man next to survival. The guys who have been there and unfortunately had their lives destroyed or had bad expeirences are helping these young guys from making the mistakes they made and are saving their lives. Every story, every piece of proof and knowledge that juice isnt worth the squeeze is giving these men new meaning. Male suicide is higher than its ever been due to divorce and men realizing too late that they were sold a lie their whole life.
Personally the only way to fight against your own impulse is to either have the discpline to remind yourself internally why its not worth it. Or in the case of what is going on here remind others why its a waste of time. Because like I said that desire for intimacy and to spread our seed is hardwired into all of us. By all means have sex if you want, but always make sure whatever engagement you get into its on "your" terms. Not hers. And for god's sake be careful and dont think with your dick. Im not against having sex but I am against us acting like a drone from our sex drive. Which is what created the mess we have in our culture.
The moment we decided to trade our independence for her happiness and potential access to sex is what created this whole gynocentric culture shit show. If a writeup on why a woman isnt worth it in 2020 in this thread saves a guy's life. Then to me its worth to talk about.
