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A former member of David Dobrik's Vlog Squad says he was sexually assaulted for laughs during a video shoot. He wants to inspire men who may have been sexually assaulted to come forward.

AcceptableVoice3448

March 3, 2021
22 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.insider.com/seth-francois-accuses-jason-nash-vlog-squad-david-dobrik-assault-2021-2
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Title A former member of David Dobrik's Vlog Squad says he was sexually assaulted for laughs during a video shoot. He wants to inspire men who may have been sexually assaulted to come forward.
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AcceptableVoice3448

Upvotes 22
Comments 6
Date March 3, 2021 10:58 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/lwr6u7/a_former_member_of_david_dobriks_vlog_squad_says/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/a-former-member-of-david-dobriks-vlog-squad-says.833261
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[–]AcceptableVoice3448[S] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Francois told Insider in an interview on February 15 that he was of two minds before choosing to come forward with his experience.

On the one hand, he says he was so traumatized that he wasn't sure he wanted to bring more attention to it. He said he felt like his masculinity was stripped from him, and he's had to rebuild and redefine himself again since.

"I'm just training my mind to just be strong enough to just like completely get over it," he said. "It wasn't my fault. I didn't sign up for it. I didn't ask for that to happen to me. And it did. But that's something that I just personally have to live with."

...He also wants to inspire men who may have been sexually assaulted to come forward. Statistics suggest the number of men who experience sexual assault may be much higher than the number who actually report it. Many of the reasons why are linked to shame, or the fact they don't believe law enforcement will take them seriously.

The video was apparently viewed by 10 million people and nobody brought it up as an issue until now. Now that it’s coming to light, it’s barely a blip.

People are still watching David’s content.

Society doesn’t care when the victim is male.

[–]papakahn94 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Honestly theres a lot to pick into this. The first time was straight up assault but also if he told davis he wasnt comfortable with it being uploaded im sure he wouldnt have. As far as the second time,he gave david permission straight up. This isnt taking anything away as he is still a victim. As am i. Theres just a lot of things thrown around and david isnt all to blame. Like yes he shouldnt have done it to begin with,but he got consent to upload it and to prank Seth again

[–]AcceptableVoice3448[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

The first time was straight up assault

Ask yourself: why isn’t that a dead stop?

Even if you decide that Seth’s claims in his other interviews about what happened (That he told David he didn’t want it uploaded, and that David did it anyway. That David only edited the footage the second time to make it look like he consented when there’s no video footage of him actually saying he consents to it, only saying, “how can I consent to something like that?”) are somehow lies...

Why does any of that excuse someone arranging a person’s sexual assault in the first place?

[–]papakahn94 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

again. if he actually told David to not upload it. im 100% sure he wouldn't. as far as the editing goes..that is the dumbest thing ive heard. he LITERALLY has him on camera saying "can i prank you by making you kiss Jason again" and seth says thats bold of him to straight up ask him and then says he can. thats consent. Seth also could have said no to this because he apparently told David to not upload the previous video. again,im not saying it wasnt assault, but theres a lot more factors at play than he said she said. there is video evidence on and OFFICIAL video of Seth consenting to the second "prank". it should not have been done in the first place yes. both parties are at fault here. he is a victim for the first video,but not the second

[–]AcceptableVoice3448[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can’t be 100% sure of what someone you don’t know would do. You’re in a parasocial relationship with someone whose job it is to make you feel like you know them and their true colors. You only know a persona.

Before we even get into the dispute about the second video then, you admit that David arranged for Seth to be sexually assaulted on camera? And you don’t think David should face consequences for that?

[–]papakahn94 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. I admitted that Seth consented to being kissed by Jason again. And again. I said i was not standing up for either as theyre both in the fault for different reasons. David should make some kind of statement. I honestly dont think there was any ill will,but also it should not have been done the first time or not upload if Seth spoke up. Seth is a victim. I am not disputing that,but there are things he could have done. He also texted david saying he was cool with doing another kissing prank...for a third time

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