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Incompetant female Cop in NYC is a danger to herself and her partner - repeatedly defeated by a restrained man laying on the floor

JohnKimble111

April 18, 2020
15 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://nypost.com/2020/04/17/video-shows-handcuffed-maniac-kick-nypd-cop-onto-subway-tracks/
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Title Incompetant female Cop in NYC is a danger to herself and her partner - repeatedly defeated by a restrained man laying on the floor
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JohnKimble111

Upvotes 15
Comments 15
Date April 18, 2020 2:01 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/g3fh1u/incompetant_female_cop_in_nyc_is_a_danger_to/
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Comments

[–]bklee83 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women simply shouldn't be cops or firefighters. In general. There are some that could qualify but for the most part we need people with not only considerable physical capabilities but also someone who has lived with that power and knows not to act with it untill it is absolutely necessary.

[–]DubsPackage 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't fault her for doing her best.

Cops aren't superhumans, they're just people doing a tough job.

Male cops also have been overpowered by suspects.

Not all cases are about physicality, sometimes a female cop can talk a suspect down, or assist with searching/detaining female suspects, or do undercover work. In other words, they have their uses.

You still want to keep a police force at least %80-%90 male, otherwise they're just not going to get the job done.

[–]LodgePoleMurphy 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish they would taze the shit out of him.

[–]Vinniikii 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

That’s definitely a hot take. Not sure the solution is more and stronger men in our abusive police. Does strip away some of the pretenses or equality

[+]mitchatron10001 points 6 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever had to deal with somebody who is physically struggling? 've worked in mental health and I know that when an extremely agitated individual lashes out the endorphins grant almost super human strength. This woman was not incompetent she was victim of a violent man in the line of duty.

[–]perplexedm 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This woman was not incompetent she was victim

Oh !

[–]Vinniikii -3 points-2 points-1 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Better tactic would have been to start beating on his knees with a baton when she first got kicked off, she was beat before he landed the good kick. False sense of security bc other officer immobilized top half, she kept laying on his legs instead of breaking joints. But NyC is fraught rn, use of force doctrines and the reality of mob defense make it hard for officers to really use their tools to incapacitate resisting people.

[–]perplexedm 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

she kept laying on his legs instead of breaking joints.

WTF ?

[–]Vinniikii 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

He was trying and succeeding to kick her off the platform. In large part because the other officer was holding his torso and giving him a solid mass to push against. This part is basic physics.

Her strategy of “flop onto his legs and hope you hold them this time” was repeated long enough to give the dude on the ground time to anticipate and actually target the kick. She also helped the guy use his legs to push the other guy off. Whether gender or something else, not a helpful presence.

Especially with drugs and adrenaline, it would be hard to really incapacitate the guy on the ground. But she never has control.

Like sure farejumpers aren’t that big a deal, rather than escalating to breaking legs or smashing testicles (which may not help “in the moment” anyway) it would be better to de-escalate and find some restorative justice.

ETA rewatched it, the bboy swivel kicks already had her dazed, she basically walks right into the next blow. But before that she gets kicked because she’s straddling his legs like her adductors are going to hold this 6’+ man in place. All she does is give bboy leverage. No presence and no control.

[–]perplexedm 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

She was grossly inefficient in her job.

she kept laying on his legs instead of breaking joints.

Is not how you diffuse a situation.

Like sure farejumpers aren’t that big a deal, rather than escalating to breaking legs or smashing testicles (which may not help “in the moment” anyway)

Don't know what the f**k is the problem with these comment here.

it would be better to de-escalate and find some restorative justice.

She is supposed to restrain than man, she is not there to impart revenge by "find some restorative justice."

She was grossly useless as an officer, she was trying to sit on an already almost under-powered man and couldn't even manage that. What a load of crap.

[–]Vinniikii 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Watch the video man, what martial arts or grappling tells you to restrain a dude by holding his shins with your ankles standing up, like he’s a 40 pound dog you don’t want running around. She didn’t restrain him and she got a flying bboy roundhouse. Then the next kick sends her flying. Even a total bloodthirsty blue liner can apprehend that there’s better ways to use your force.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

At least we know who on this sub thinks all cops killing black folks is good for America

[–]Vinniikii 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Everyone involved in this scuffle is a PoC.

The brown man has his knee on the neck and head of the black man.

The black man kicks the brown woman off a subway platform.

I specifically mention the need for de-escalation and restorative justice.

Question your own sloppy reasoning? BLM foundered on this overbroad generalization.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Okay forever alone

[–]Vinniikii 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What’s your stake? Honestly not sure what your goal with all of this is. Race is kinda a red herring here, you don’t seem to be very politically correct? Violent policing sucks but that’s not a particularly male issue.

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