MRA's and feminists can come together on the trans issue

bufedad · 2020-03-04T19:10:44+00:00

Nope. Woman means simply "anyone who identifies as such" and anyone identifying as a woman must be given all access all benefits and all privileges given to any other woman.

A person of any biological sex must be free to identify as any gender they like under the law, identifying as a woman, he him pronouns, for purposes of a scholarship for instance, while identifying as a man, he him pronouns, at all other times. Dad bod, beard, plumbers crack and all.

When everyone's special, no one is special.

Woman means simply, anyone who identifies as such.

How can any MRA get behind the idea that all male bodied persons must continue to be excluded from all the special set asides for women, such as equal protection under the law, women only train cars, all woman short lists and 60% sentencing reductions?

Egalitarianwhistle · 2020-03-04T19:12:11+00:00

I agree with Gendercritical feminists on many trans issues. But their clear unmitigated hatred of men makes me unwilling to help them out of the predicament that they got themselves into.

Never help a scorpion across a river.

darkbluexanadu · 2020-03-04T21:01:20+00:00

This is a self correcting problem since women were all on board with trans folk and the "if they identify as....they are....". Until now womens groups are suing to keep trans athletes out of womens sports because they cant compete. Suddenly now its unfair to biological females.

2020-03-05T00:12:03+00:00

I much prefer to let these two groups tear each other to pieces in the unbridling of their mutual hatred. Neither of them are in the smallest way friends to me, so neither am I to them.

Let them destroy each other--I heartily welcome such an outcome.

2020-03-05T05:55:33+00:00

No. The core idea of Feminism is that Men and Boys are subhuman "patriarchal oppressors" who don't deserve love or empathy.

There is nothing to bring Egalitarians or MRAs together with such terrible human beings.

Kuramo · 2020-03-05T15:47:10+00:00

Well, talk for yourself buddy. I'm MRA and I don't have any problems with advocating transgeder rights.

I wouldn't bother me to have a few beers with a transgender dude or have a nice relationship with a transgender lady.

The feminists like the one interviewed in the video are just pissed off old-school feminists because their dogma they've built up suddenly affects them. They don't want to share their privileges in a gynocentric society.

2020-03-04T18:43:53+00:00

Women's only spaces = Fine

Men's only spaces = Fine

Trans only spaces = Fine

Equality of opportunity = Fine

Equality legally across the board = Fine

Trans people invading into all of the above and DEMANDING that people use THEIR language. Not fine.

Title	MRA's and feminists can come together on the trans issue
Author	SpookyWithASpoon
Upvotes	1
Comments	48
Date	March 4, 2020 6:42 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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