New here and so glad to have found this community! Hoping a female perspective can clarify the notion of conditioning?

TrueFacets · 2016-05-12T07:09:01+00:00

The problems are twofold here.

I very much desire a male companion who is kind, masculine, generous, hardworking and fair.

Problem one: There are not enough of these man in these days. Thanks to the undermining of male values in School and the Media today, a lot of boys grow up to be soft pussies who don't know how to take control.

If I really loved a man, and he me, why not just discuss issues and come up with adequate solutions?

This works quite well with a man. A man often says what he means and is totally up to solve issues. If the issue is actually a real problem and you actually want to solve the problem. His behavior does NOT count!!!

Problem Two: Women do not work in the same way. Most women don't even know why they are upset. And so the issues get projected onto irrelevant stuff. He should be more like this or behave a little more like that, or do more around the house or give her more attention or whatever (we men call this being bitchy). These little things, in many cases, are not the "Problem". Often when a women has problems with her man, it is in reality because he is not active. No projectss, no plans for the weekend, no intresting stuff with other people (drama), if there is nothing going on, women's natural instinct to test, if he is still strong/fit enough to support her and the family, kicks in (we call this shittest).

Now Conditioning is used to shut down shit tests and nagging. If we withdraw attention (ignoring you) or spend our time doing something else or without you, this shows 1st that we actually have things going on in our live, and 2nd that if we want, we can potentially get (and spend our time and energy on) other women. Women's reaction to this is, they feel that he is actually quite ok and they shut up. :)

EDIT: Women also shittest randomly without reason, usually the higher their opinion of themselves the worse it is.

Tornadofob · 2016-05-12T03:41:54+00:00

I think the easiest way for you to find a decent man is to look for the right attributes. Make a list of the 10 things you desire in your ideal man. Then prioritize that list. Take the top 3. Don't compromise on those. Be ready to compromise on the rest.

If you don't (which is the mistake many women make), realize that the chance of a person existing that meets all 10 criteria is very very low. Add to that the chance of you running into him and it the chances go from slim to practically none. You get the idea.

Now let's say even that happens - what are the chances of him loving you back. What would you have that is so compelling to him?

That's why I advocate the top 3 only. Be sure to focus on important attributes (e.g. money, view on kids, view on parents, view about work, ambitions, travel preferences etc etc) and not on temporary things like looks, interest in arts/music, etc etc (these are NOT backbones of a strong marriage).

Back to the point - once you've decided on those attributes - brainstorm as to where such a person would hang out etc ("touch points" of your target group - in marketing speak).

Also realize that the women men love to bang are NOT the women they want to marry. There is some overlap - but for the most part men can differentiate between sex and LTR materials.

So don't put out - rather take genuine interest in everyone you meet. Take genuine interest in everyone you meet and try to understand them on a deeper level. Read up on a variety of topics - including news, sports, politics and have a reasoned opinion. You'll increase your chances of meeting a decent intelligent person rather than a meathead.

And finally - good luck!!

[deleted] · 2016-05-12T09:46:55+00:00

Hey we've got stuff in common, welcome! Interesting.. I hadn't seen that thread. Those are nonverbal ways to express disapproval, but I think some of them flirt with passive aggressiveness tbh. Funnily enough, the first example is how I used to deal with a little girl I nannied for; unavailability is very effective on kids.

Your question is why can't a man just verbally express his disapproval, and that be enough? Well he could, and from your back story, it seems like that would suffice, but for other women, it wouldn't. Women are more emotional and averse to taking responsibility when problems are pointed out- y'know, like kids :)

I'm not hating on women, most people have a hard time accepting blame, but women especially. I think men are more logical and women are more instinctual; therefore, bodily cues are effective. It's animalistic.

** I'm editing my post bc I know that it adds to the inflammatory vibe of TRP ("let's treat women like dogs and children!"). That language is meant to provoke.

However, instinctual is a good thing. It's what makes a great mother, and what has helped the human race adapt and survive. Differences between men and women are beneficial.

Title	New here and so glad to have found this community! Hoping a female perspective can clarify the notion of conditioning?
Author	loomannie
Upvotes	11
Comments	4
Date	May 12, 2016 1:33 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
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