First I will say this is not my real account, for obvious reasons. I have thought about this topic a lot, and have some unique insights. I will try to keep this pertaining to specifically to the realm of men's rights however.

I would though be happy to discuss the other issue of pedophila to the best of my ability.

All that said I hope you can read this with a critical eye, and concider my point.

To start I will explane what prompted me to write you. I was listening to the recent broadcast of Honey Bader Radio and was troubled to hear that Alison (Snake voice) "The boss" used pedophile interchangeably with child molester.

This is a problem for a few reasons. Men already have pedophile used as a weapon against them, from male sexuality (liking "young women"), to other sexual preferences like perky breasts.

Men are uniquely targeted for having unhealthy interests in children. Even though women are pedophiles as well.

I would guess the precentage of women that are pedophiles is the same as men but there is a huge grey number regarding both female pedophiles, and pedophiles in general. This is a digression but an important one as it has larger implications.

This next section is a small portion of my reasoning regarded why I think this will help both children and those who suffer with pedophilia. Specifically men who suffer.

The biggest issue is that this configuration between pedophile and child abuse, is pedophilia is a mental illness. Treating pedophila as already hurting children makes anyone who is dealing with pedophila less willing to get help. Men already do not seek mental health help to begin with, how can anyone expect them to open up about it when they will just be considered a monster even for just thinking.

That hurts both men and children. There are not really any good treatments. We have only the worst sample to draw from. We get them from people who already offend, and have many reasons to lie about factors.

Imagine there are three groups within the over arching group of pedophile. The first is the "ideal", they recognize the harm of acting, are in control of their desires and have found ethical ways to deal with them. This group would be able to more openly help others. This is also why we have grey numbers. We don't know how many are in this or the second category and never offend.

The second are the more "real", they have this attraction, understand it is harmful to act but have no coping methods or support, this is the group that can go either way. Helping them protects children and them, as many will commit suicide before offending.

The third group are the "worst" they are also sociopaths who don't care or can't see the harm, this group won't be affected either way. Nor do we know how many get caught.

Treating pedophila as a mental illness that in itself is not the same as child abuse is a step we can take, without the liability of being called pedophile apologists, to help keep children safe and help men. Again none of this is apologia. Pedophila is recognized as a ligament mental illness. Child abuse is a horrific crime they have over lap but are not the same. We should recognize that distinction. We have seen how conflating men with rape has been used.

It becomes much harder to attack men with this as if it is a mental illness the attacker becomes a "shitty person". It also requires them to either give a libelous or scandalous insult. I think any fallacy tool we can take away from a detractor is a good goal, both for men's rights and discourse in general.