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Slovakian Police Officers deny the pass

ABC_Florida

August 3, 2016

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Title	Slovakian Police Officers deny the pass
Author	ABC_Florida
Upvotes	4
Comments	11
Date	August 3, 2016 11:05 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/4w1gkg/slovakian_police_officers_deny_the_pass/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PussyPassDenied/slovakian-police-officers-deny-the-pass.944376 https://theredarchive.com/post/944376

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[–]ABC_Florida[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex[M] [score hidden] 9 years ago stickied comment (15 children) | Copy Link

[–]ABC_Florida[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ABC_Florida[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

[–]Madman644Really david 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

In general posts here are exclusively for when a woman attempts to use their gender to avoid repercussions for something (a pussy pass) but she gets treated exactly the same a man would (a PP denial).

Situations where a woman faces repercussions the same as a man, but importantly there was no attempt for her to use her gender as an excuse is not PPD. It appears this is the case here.

It has nothing to do with the reasons you mention above (although that would account in part for the low number of upvotes).

Here is an example of a high quality, well written and popular post which got removed because it didn't fit the sub guidelines earlier this week

It's been a decision by the mod team that we would rather have a low number of high quality relevant posts than a high number of posts that don't quite fit the subs description.

[–]ABC_Florida[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I understand.

In general posts here are exclusively for when a woman attempts to use their gender to avoid repercussions for something (a pussy pass) but she gets treated exactly the same a man would (a PP denial).

Here I see a big issue. There are many cases where the viewer assumes, that the given woman is entitled and not crazy, like this woman getting maced for harassing construction workers. Because the line is very thin between using the gender card, and having false preconceptions about her own abilities. Two examples out the top of my mind.

The 6 minute long video of Bill Burr, where the woman throws her drink in the "impolite" dude's face. There the guy starts the verbal altercation. He starts the physical too. Then she throws her drink, and gets her legs swept. That is plain and simple male on female violence. But is it PPD? She answers slurs with slurs. Answers punch with her drink. And gets her legs swept. Was she the aggressor? No. Was she moderate? Absolutely. Should've she retreated with her tail between her legs? No, everybody has the right to stand up for herself/himself. Is throwing a drink less serious, than being punched at? It does not matter, because he was the aggressor; but no it is less serious. Yet it is uploaded constantly, although the majority of voters and commenters do not support it. But it is a bad message, and it labels this sub misogynistic. FWIW calling that woman defending herself a PPD, is a double standard. Considering that this sub (and me), has no problem with men hitting women in self defense.
The women fail type of posts. Like this one. Idiot OP was not even baffled by the title he gave: "Girl think she can come in helping her boyfriend by swinging away. (Timestamp 02:26)". So by his assumption, we should cheer on the failure of a woman, who probably never had a fight in her life, and now jumps in to help her BF. By this logic if I go to a golf course, and make my first swing and the ball, plow 5 inch deep in the ground bending the club; then that is NoobPassDenied.

It's been a decision by the mod team that we would rather have a low number of high quality relevant posts than a high number of posts that don't quite fit the subs description.

I totally agree with this part. It is a good intention not to let the sub get diluted.

[–]Madman644Really david 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Yeah these are 3 borderline posts which I personally am not a huge fan of.

The construction one relies on the principle that the woman doesn't need to explicitly state her gender in an effort to avoid consequences but can passively do it from their actions and shock when they get treated like a man. As you say where do you draw the line between crazy and entitled. Honesty I would say just plain crazy but it's open enough to allow it for interpretation I guess.

The video Bill Burr is talking about has been posted and reposted here since the dawn of time and it looks like it gets less popular each time it's seen here. My analysis is that two drunken idiots are acting like drunken idiots. However I do think this is a PPD, even if the guy is in the wrong as well. Although the guy is "the aggressor" because he is the first to involve physical contact, I think it can be argued that he is doing it to create distance and stop her aggressive towards him. She them throws the drink over him and retreats to her friends. The way I see it, if she had been a guy who threw a drink on another guy you would fully expect a fight to break out or at least a retalitory punch to be thrown but because she immediately goes back to the "protection" of her white knight friends she is assuming because she's a girl the guy won't hit back and that if he does he'll be beaten up by her friends. Is it what the guy should have done? I think not, he should have walked away long before it escalated to the point which it did but given what did happened it can be regarded as a PPD. Still debatable though and the low upvotes it gets shows that.

Your final video I agree isn't PPD, it's a bunch of animals being violent to each other regardless of gender and the girl in the timestamped clip looked to be trying to break up the fight/defend her bf. No PPD and I'll remove it now. Thanks! Do note that it is heavily downvoted which does help show that the sub can occasionally self-moderate poor content haha.

Are you happy with the decision to remove your video now? Or af least see where we're coming from?

[–]ABC_Florida[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

However I do think this is a PPD, even if the guy is in the wrong as well. Although the guy is "the aggressor" because he is the first to involve physical contact, I think it can be argued that he is doing it to create distance and stop her aggressive towards him. She them throws the drink over him and retreats to her friends. The way I see it, if she had been a guy who threw a drink on another guy you would fully expect a fight to break out or at least a retalitory punch to be thrown but because she immediately goes back to the "protection" of her white knight friends she is assuming because she's a girl the guy won't hit back and that if he does he'll be beaten up by her friends.

That's a good point. I agree that her behavior, even if she was not the aggressor, is indeed stems from the assumption of chivalry. I had a guy I knew slap me on the back of the neck multiple times. This happened on a bus 10+ years ago. He walked away with his pal, just like this girl. Expecting nothing to happen to him. Too bad, I was not slapping him in the back of the head as he got off the bus, but hitting him with my fist. But indeed, it is more likely that it is female entitlement rather than confidence of overpower. But still not a good idea cheering on videos where the one defending herself gets beaten up.

Do note that it is heavily downvoted which does help show that the sub can occasionally self-moderate poor content haha.

I'm totally happy how the sub can self regulate itself sometimes. I think I can see pretty objectively. I have no problem when the girl who hit a guy, went after his balls with a kick; gets knocked over a glass. On the other hand, I have problem even with the folks not condemning where the woman is an innocent victim.

Are you happy with the decision to remove your video now? Or af least see where we're coming from?

I had no problem the moment I gave it a thought. My problem was, that I though the mod was being dishonest about the reason. My point of view is totally different, than yours. You got to see the English source. I've read more. And in those languages it was presented like "Woman in artificially induced coma after cop kicked her in the head", and "They only found out that the driver was indeed a woman, after they arrested her.". These BC bullshit and attention whore sentences and representations add the Pussy Pass part on behalf of journalists. But still, that's my POV, someone's who lives in the region. And not the POV of majority of the readers. And it is not a big issue around here, to be made into international news, and be suitable for a PPD post here. You know, even the majority of females condemn her in their FB comments. This is an old-school country. And I love it this way.

[–]Madman644Really david 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like a great place to live if people actually look at the facts and take biased and sensationalist angles with a pinch of salt! It's a shame that journalists feel they need to attach agendas to stories in the hope that it becomes bigger news. Ah well, without sounding hipster I've become very skeptical about anything I read in main stream media.

And in regards to people condemning women even if they are victims you'll always get some asshole who does it but in the main from what I've seen people tend to downvote it heavily and thankfully the comments tend to be a vocal minority.

Also it's been a major issue from day one that this sub isn't /r/beatingwomen and the mods before me (I've only been one for a few days) take a very harsh stance on removing offending content. If nothing else we don't want admins to remove us as a hate sub because that's not what we are trying to be!

[–]ABC_Florida[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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Edit: Actual footage of the driver cooperating after stopping at 3:17