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" We are launching this legal defense campaign for domestic violence pioneer Erin Pizzey, whose internet domain whiteribbon.org is under attack by White Ribbon Australia. They want to use legal force to take Erin's domain and silence her because she speaks the truth about domestic violence."

DougDante

July 23, 2016
97 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/whiteribbon-org-legal-defense-campaign
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Title " We are launching this legal defense campaign for domestic violence pioneer Erin Pizzey, whose internet domain whiteribbon.org is under attack by White Ribbon Australia. They want to use legal force to take Erin's domain and silence her because she speaks the truth about domestic violence."
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DougDante

Upvotes 97
Comments 7
Date July 23, 2016 2:31 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4u8fe0/we_are_launching_this_legal_defense_campaign_for/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/we-are-launching-this-legal-defense-campaign-for.945061
https://theredarchive.com/post/945061
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[–]Karissa36 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4tqqu2/white_ribbon_australia_attacks_erin_pizzey/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4u2dzg/can_you_help_by_sharing_this_video_and_if_you_can/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4tz111/erin_pizzey_legal_defense_fundraiser/

Is there some special reason that these last 3 posts about the exact same fundraiser, all within the last 3 days, were not enough? We really needed a 4th post about the exact same thing because why? You just didn't like the comments on the last 3 posts?

This is beginning to seriously look like spam. The "We" by the way in this title is Paul Elam and A Voice for Men.

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[–]Karissa36 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean by "if that were true"? It's obviously true. This is in fact the first sentences of the fundraising petition:

We are AVfM Education, LLC, which operates A Voice for Men, an activist organization dedicated to issues faced by men and boys. We are launching this legal defense campaign for domestic violence pioneer Erin Pizzey...

With Paul Elam's picture, name and contact information right beside it.

Why is this important? It's important because Paul Elam and A Voice for Men have a history of a complete lack of transparency on what he does with the donations he collects. Which has caused quite a number of MRA's to view him with suspicion. Especially after his 2014 International Conference on Men's Issues switched to a very low rent venue without offering any refunds and then collected another $31,000. in donations for alleged "security", which clearly was not all (or even mainly) spent on security.

This is not just my opinion. Note that the site's Alexa traffic ranks have severely plummeted over the past year.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/avoiceformen.com

Note that the number one search for visitors to A Voice for Men coming from search engines is "I hate men". So clearly these are not MRA's or his supporters.

When you are soliciting donations, these things are important.

As long as we are looking at Alexa rankings, note that Erin Pizzey's site has so little traffic that Alexa doesn't even bother to count it. It does show that her site has a stunning 76.9 percent bounce rate, which means that 76.9 percent of people clicking on her site immediately leave. (Not surprising since most of them were undoubtedly expecting the real White Ribbon.)

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/whiteribbon.org

A Voice for Men, by the way, has a 62 percent bounce rate.

Edit: When someone asks people to donate money to save a site, don't you think a reasonable person would at least include a link to it in their fund raising request? There is a reason that they didn't. The site has very little content and most of that is two years old. Here is the link: http://whiteribbon.org/

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[–]Karissa36 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Some women, like Erin Pizzey, are worth defending.

I agree. However we disagree on what type of defense she deserves. I think this (by her own words) not very computer literate and obviously older person deserved not to become Elam's pawn in taking over a site, after he wrongfully stole the real White Ribbon's name and then knew for a fact he was likely to be sued. Elam was using the site to collect donations for his own legal fees before he promptly handed it over to Erin Pizzey instead. Almost definitely after his lawyers told him to dis-associate himself from this site and that the site should definitely not collect any donations.

http://whiteribbon.org/allbulletins/an-update-on-efforts-by-whiteribbon-org/

Edit: page cited here since it is extremely likely to be removed:

An update on efforts by WhiteRibbon.org October 26, 2014 By Paul Elam

Update The below item is now out of date; in early November, full control of the site was given to Erin Pizzey, and donations are no longer accepted at all. We do discourage people from giving money to other sites which give bad information about domestic violence, but this site does not accept donations at this time.


WhiteRibbon.org has been subjected via email and many comments on the Internet to thinly veiled threats of legal action against us for using the name “White Ribbon” in association with raising awareness of facts about domestic violence. We fully expect that one or more of these threats will indeed materialize into litigation.

To make it clear to all visitors here, WhiteRibbon.org was legally established to fill an information void about domestic violence that is detrimental to our society. It is funded entirely by A Voice for Men, an activist website dedicated to raising public consciousness about men and boys.

Due to the ongoing threats of legal action against us, we have dedicated our donation button at WhiteRibbon.org to one purpose, and that is to fight for our legal right to publish under the domain name we lawfully own and to exercise our freedom of speech by continually adding new information to the site — under its current name.

All donations to this site will be placed into our legal war chest to defend those rights.

We appreciate the support of people who believe in the moral correctness of our actions, and we pledge to vigorously fight any attempt to abridge our free speech or any other Constitutional rights.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's 120k people subbed. It is not an anomaly for something to get posted more than once, especially when it involves someone like Erin Pizzey and Paul Elam. It's spam to you because you feel the need to post in every thread.

[–]Karissa36 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4tqqu2/white_ribbon_australia_attacks_erin_pizzey/d5jl3o3

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4u2dzg/can_you_help_by_sharing_this_video_and_if_you_can/

Links to previous comments so I don't have to repeat myself.

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