LA Times: The Guardian uses copyright to shush a critic of its cultural criticism (Sargon of Akkad)

xNOM · 2015-06-23T07:29:48+00:00

50000 views. What's that, like, $100 in ad revenue?

DavidByron2 · 2015-06-23T21:31:29+00:00

What a bizarre argument.

That means Sargon effectively reduced the number of people who would see the commercial the Guardian placed at the front end of Anyangwe's video

Raising awareness of an article by criticising it does not reduce but rather increases the number of people seeing it. Sure many wont bother but many will want to check out the original that they are talking about. That goes both for supporters and opponents of the criticism. Having people talking about your stuff is the best way to boost viewers.

Depending on how much was quoted, the Guardian might be legally correct but the motivation sure wasn't lost ad revenue.

ThePigmanAgain · 2015-06-24T08:37:42+00:00

From...

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p27_work_of_others

"What is fair dealing?

Fair dealing is a term used to describe some limited activities that are allowed without infringing copyright. Briefly these are as follows:

Research and private study

Copying PARTS of a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work or of a typographical arrangement of a published edition for the purpose of research or private study is allowed under the following conditions: The copy is made for the purposes of research or private study. The copy is made for non-commercial purposes. The source of the material is acknowledged. The person making the copy does not make copies of the material available for a number of people.

Instruction or examination

Copying PARTS of a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work or a sound recording, film or broadcast for the purpose of instruction or examination is allowed under the following conditions: The copying is done by the student or the person giving instruction. The copying is not done via a reprographic process. The source of the material is acknowledged. The instruction is for a non-commercial purpose.

Criticism or review

Quoting PARTS of a work for the purpose of criticism or review is permitted provided that:

The work has been made available to the public. The source of the material is acknowledged. The material quoted must be accompanied by some actual discussion or assessment (to warrant the criticism or review classification). The amount of the material quoted is no more than is necessary for the purpose of the review."

Notice how they keep using the oddly suggestive word "parts"! They do mention it's okay to make "copies" if it is for the purpose of reporting ( this seems to have been commentary, not reporting,) and if it is for use of the visually impaired, but for every other purpose it is part of the work, not its entirety.

ThePigmanAgain · 2015-06-23T08:22:40+00:00

If he was, indeed, stupid enough to use the entirety of a copyrighted work, it's hard to sympathize with him. I was expecting the Guardian to have pulled some bullshit over a few quoted lines or something -- though i suspect such tactics by those pseudo-leftist assholes are just a matter of time.

Title	LA Times: The Guardian uses copyright to shush a critic of its cultural criticism (Sargon of Akkad)
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Date	June 23, 2015 3:19 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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