Long story short, I was a kissless virgin up until the middle of college when I started implementing redpill strategies. I stopped doing that after an extremely toxic relationship, and I realized what a risk and waste of time it was. I went MGTOW for a while (without most of the baggage associated with the term), but I would really like to experience a long-term relationship at some point.

I find some women pleasant to be around, and even admire a few (same as with men). The problem is that I have never gotten into a relationship just being myself (or a “more confident” version of myself). It doesn’t matter if we have shared interests, I’m doing pretty good career-wise, and I don’t think I look half bad or else I wouldn’t have gotten laid at all. I just get rejected or put in the friend zone unless I put on the fake redpill-prescribed persona, and at that point, why even bother trying to develop the relationship any further?

My question to exredpill men is how did you go about dating/getting a LTR after rejecting redpill ideas?