For those who don't know, if you switch to old reddit for a quick second , you can see the redpills sub count and its roughly 1.7 million - just as I wouldn't paint all the fans of one community as being the exact same person - I think its silly to paint the fans of EVEN that toxic community with the same person brush.

It's like any church, school, or organization - you are gonna have its keeners, high performers, a bunch of people who just have to go cause they don't know where else to look, and the slackers, etc.

It's like someone who's only christian in name - rather than any actual faithful practice.

Just to elaborate to some folks who think everyone there is the exact same shade of horny monster:

Shy/Nice Guys: These guys stumble upon RP/Seddit to desperately break out of their shell and get their romantic lives started. Not to hate all women lmao - they just wanna get better somehow. Misguided - sure , but the intentions aren't evil.

Heartbroken dudes: Dudes who were left with no explanation just tryna figure out where they went wrong and self improve.

Divorced dudes: Salty bunch for sure but poor chaps have lost however much of their lives in marriages they despised - not saying they were in the right. But people need a place to discuss how to handle it with other men who have gone through exactly what they have.

Horny dudes: I'd be lying if I said that most dudes there just didn't wanna get laid. It's not because they hate women or don't see the merits in progress for women. They LITERALLY just wanna have sex. It's basic AF for sure - but what can you expect from an army of horny teenagers?

Players: Some dudes just wanna be sleazy forever and discuss their experiences - that's their choice. Let them wake up at 65 with nobody beside them.

Psychopaths: Yes, even these clowns need a space to discuss. But just as psychopaths are like 2-10% of the population or something - do you reeeeeeally think 1.7 million people are training to be psychopaths/sociopaths?

But you might be thinking , "so all these dudes definition of improvement is cheating on women? Making them feel like shit?"

To that I'd say: "when you are given a knife - you can cut an apple or murder someone"

Once the guys improve themselves and get their basic social skills together, it's up to each and every guy to decide how he wants to use it. That's a life choice - some people choose to be shitty , others go on to make more money and provide for their satisfied spouses they woulda never gotten if they were still Mr.NiceGuy or whatever crutch they were holding onto.

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Yet in my few instances of interacting with some ladies here - I see broad sweeping generalizations and every man who ascribes to it has committed a horrid crime and needs to atone for their sins or something like they are all the same psycho. Yes some guys need to get some real soul searching going and myself included but that doesn't mean I wanna feel like a POS the whole way through.

As someone who wants to move on - it's a damn shame to see that cause it's the exact same Us v Them mentality that I'm trying to move on from.

Like am I crazy or do some of yall not realize how shitty you sound?

I know as I write this - someone is writing their grand expose on "tell that to the women in oppressive countries! Men need feminism! "

And that's when I picked up on it - is this sub just a feminist conversion sub?

No thanks!

Just cause I've left the toxic side and want to be nice to everyone doesn't mean I want to take whatever you say blindly and agree with all women on everything until the day I die. I have certain viewpoints that I have to be organically/rationally convinced away from - you're not gonna yell/berate the demon outta me.

Just as I would expect women to stand up for themselves - just cause I left TRP does it mean I'm not gonna stand up for myself ?

I'll be honest with you when I found this place - I thought it was a bunch of dudes who just wanted to move on and share some experiences - but some of the women here lowkey just make really take a second look before abandoning it. I'm still gonna leave it behind cause I'm tryna be the bigger person, but damn. I thought it was just a positive place where people are a bit more tolerant - you can still wrestle with the issues, etc.

IF none of the mods are a dude: That's not equal representation - it goes both ways.

And again, I know someone is gonna just read the bottom and take it out of context or ascribe their own stories into it "well I've been called so many mean names by them, why should I be nice? "

Girl , so what????

I'm not them! Nor am I trying to be!

Someone has arrived as a guest in your clinic for help, do you berate them for not changing sooner? Addicts would never return to counseling if their counselors did shit like this cause of every prior patient that lashed out before.

It takes patience.

Think Twice before you type. (especially if you're gonna start up on Feminism and the prompt has nothing to do with feminism )

And if this is some kinda feminist -conversion sub , just say it. Stop beating around the bush. No wonder your sub rates aren't higher - how can anyone stick around for long if people respond with the most silly (being polite there) responses.

And to the Moderators if I may say - It wouldn't kill you to codify basic rules of decency, what y'all are willing to tolerate even as guys are coming off the cult, etc on a sidebar.

If this is not a judgement free zone and you will be shit on even while grappling concepts across the spheres- just say it on the sidebar.

If this is a - once you are fully healed then you can come back sub - then just say it on the sidebar.