Hey guys, so first off I know many RedPill guys completly bought into the fantasy of a hedoistic lifestyle coming to the realization that women are humans aswell when founding this subreddit/community. I have to say I'm pretty happy in life and even though till this day I believed that hypergamy was an actual thing, I never tryed stuff like the "plate theory" and I still treated girls like human beings.
As horrible it will sound to many people but I actually thought I learned so much from RedPill. These things turned out just to be self improvement tips and general dating advice for men, mostly. Things like if you are acting all needy and desperate, ofcourse she will reject you. Again, this all originates just from being confident in your body and mind and basic communication skills.
When I started reading about redpill I was really an anxious teen not even able to talk to a girl and even if it has many toxic idealogies, I learned a lot from it back then. Like how to act like a man, to ask yourself if you are moving towards pleasure or moving away from pain, realize if people just want to drag you down for the sake of their own ego like crabs in a bucket, to act by an abundance mentality, that if something comes up, instead to freaking out, handling things in a stoic way (read a lot about it later), to spread positivity and add value to people's lives and whatever happens at the end of the day you'll be fine.
I know these things might sound very generic to you and it should be just general advice really, or you might not believe people "preaching" RedPill do actually teach positive things and not how to fuck a woman asap.
I have looked around and I have come to the realization, "BluePill" or Incels are one extreme side end of the spectrum and BlackPill/MGTOW at the other extreme side, where for RedPill many different people saying and doing many different things. As looking at this subreddit as the midground, people not being complete chumps but still not try to be the "dating one more girl just for the sake of it" while staying real, I consider myself as I always belonged here.
In my opinion what many RedPill guys say is way too far, but many would tell you actual life advices.
I would love to hear your opinion, if I came across defensive or offensive, it wasn't my intention, I'm open minded to hear out your ideas.