Hello MGTOW,

TL;DR: MGTOW is great, most women are worthless but is it possible that some are great?

Before I begin I'd like to say that I'm very happy to find that communities like these exist. It's even better to discover that so many members of this community seem so supportive of everyone who wants to pour out his heart on this platform. It goes a long way to giving me a real boost.

So the reason I make this thread is because I have a thought that's been on my mind for a while but would like to hear like-minded people's opinions on.

Like many of you I've burned my hands on women a couple of times before, and like the hands of many of you, they were burned pretty badly. Now, this happened because, even though I've never seen myself as a full blue-piller, I was genuinely interested in these women and I am somebody who gives everyone and everything in this world a chance. One single chance. 

Ever since as early as the age of 12, when I was in school, I started to notice girls pull the kind of things that for 15 years onwards I would see women do more and more often and on a much grander scale. I've observed my parents, who, for 27 years now have been happily married and to this day we support each other. Once in a blue moon there are fights, sure, but these would never last very long. Something bizarre I noticed in general is that I don't get along with anybody who's younger than 30. Not like in a 'picking a fight' - kind of sense but when I talk to somebody of or around my generation, the conversation gets so dull so quickly for me. People don't have many interesting things to say, they don't seem to have many if any real goals or passions and, well, I get this great sense of blandness from them, both men and women. But on the flipside, I get along great with both men and women who are above that age range and I have friends who are 35, 38, 40, 50, 53, and so on.

I mention these things because, while it's a given that things are looking really bleak for men like us, wouldn't it be logical (and mathematically very possible) that there would be women like us, as well? That there are women who for example like traditional gender roles, who want to carve out their own identities and lives without taking a ride on somebody else's, who is assertive without being a total bitch and shock, gasp! sees men as actual individuals, as real people with hearts and hopes and dreams?