Alcohol

MattFoley79 · 2018-03-03T15:06:56+00:00

I've had issues with it as well. Got sober in my mid-twenties during a nasty trip through the family court system for custody of my daughter. Got forced into 30-day intensive outpatient treatment and AA in order to get visitation. Kept up with AA afterward and spent the next 6 years sober. Got married, had another kid, and divorced in that time. Got my oldest kid every other weekend and my youngest every other week.

Started drinking again, but not like in my early 20's. Today it's something I'll do once in a while when I'm somewhere that I know there's no chance I'll drive.

AA works if you do the steps and go to meetings. The trouble with it is that they speak like they're the authority on all drunks everywhere -- they aren't. They have basically the same success rate as people who stop on their own. Some people who had issues with alcohol when they were young can age out of it as they get older. It all really depends on the person.

What worked for me was to quit fixating on so much. Find a hobby or get involved in a gym or community where alcohol isn't a factor. Having my kids around helps, as I don't drink around them.

What's my point? Try AA if you want, but keep in mind that lots of us do recover without it.

DoctorB50 · 2018-03-03T16:11:41+00:00

Seen the lives of too many talented men go down the shitter because of alcohol. So sad. A lifetime convict in Joliet Prison wrote the following poem which men would do well to consider: "The saloon is sometimes called a bar, That's true: A bar to Heaven, a door to hell, Whoever named it, named it well. A bar to manliness and wealth, A door to want and broken health, A bar to honor, pride and fame; A door to grief and sin and shame, A bar to hope, a bar to prayer, A door to darkness and despair, A bar to honored, useful life, A door to brawling, senseless strife, A bar to all that's true and brave, A door to every drunkard's grave, A bar to joys that home impart, A door to tears and aching hearts, A bar to Heaven, a door to hell, Whoever named it, named it well!!

maggot_brain79 · 2018-03-03T18:42:24+00:00

Agreed. However, I'd say the prices of booze typically drop into the negatives after a while. It starts fairly innocuous. You drink after work to relax, or as a lubricant in a social setting, greasing the wheels so you can have more fun with your drinking buddies or even complete strangers. The real trouble starts when you drink to escape something, anything. Drinking to escape boredom, anxiety, depression, or to escape reality and give yourself some relent from the world of shit you live in. However, as you drink, you just make the world around you more shit. I saw it myself, in color. My life and surroundings deteriorated the more I drank. Only thing is, I don't blame alcohol for doing what it does. It's a mental thing. A lot of former alcoholics see alcohol as some kind of demon or some kind of poison.

Really, the poison is within you. Create a life you don't have to escape from and you won't develop a bad drinking habit. The poor choices you make when drinking are simply things you would have likely done anyway if you didn't have a filter. Alcohol just removes the filter.

I'm a former alcoholic and I've been over 3 months sober now, but I do plan to drink again when I feel like I can have a better relationship with alcohol. I lost my job, lost friends, said and did a lot of embarrassing shit, made poor choices and fucked up my surroundings when I was still an alcoholic, but it wasn't the fault of alcohol. It was my own fault by allowing alcohol to take center stage in my life. It was what I thought about all day, no matter what I was doing.

owninfools007 · 2018-03-03T15:10:03+00:00

I only binge at home, if I ever do. No need in going to bars anymore since meeting women is out of the question. I do have a couple if I go out to eat/night with the boys IF someone else is driving or I know I can get a ride.

Dberp · 2018-03-04T04:58:03+00:00

Want to look older? Two things will age you fast: cortisol and alcohol. Both produce toxic compounds as byproducts when broken down by the liver. These compounds then damage and shorten your telomeres. Those are the bits at the ends of your DNA that keep it from unraveling. When enough of them break down, your DNA starts degrading.

Thinking about this one fact has helped me to cut stress and quit alcohol.

Title	Alcohol
Author	SuspectedLumber
Upvotes	23
Comments	12
Date	March 3, 2018 10:05 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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