Average man have it rough now a days?

geocitiesuser · 2016-12-24T19:27:58+00:00

average to below average guys don't even get up to bat anymore. It's what what ultimately lead me here.

gravelheart · 2016-12-24T19:32:17+00:00

Last woman I had dealings with was a 3/10 and acted like a 9/10 simply because tinder guys who were way out of her league would dump loads on her instead of having a wank.

There's literally nothing of value out there.

hertus · 2016-12-24T21:41:21+00:00

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wastagaswe · 2016-12-24T18:49:11+00:00

You either stay away from them, or pump and dump.

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PabloEscoba · 2016-12-24T19:36:51+00:00

Open hypergamy dictates that average dudes are out of the game. If Brad Pitt is not enough how do u think u will fare?

igor_bloodscene · 2016-12-24T21:59:15+00:00

pay for quality escorts. they are the only ones worth to have your money.

we will show how 'relationships' dynamics are truly transactional.

redsfan277 · 2016-12-24T22:37:46+00:00

I used to think the ugly girls were nicer and obviously guys wouldnt be after them....and that is true to an extent...I dated this semi ugly chick that no one really chased too much...i mean its passable but then when one guy did chased her she cheated on me....so fuck that.

Its like you are trying to build a house out of a shaky foundation...changes are it will fall no matter how much good of a builder you are. But hey some people make it work

Helikzhan · 2016-12-25T00:03:21+00:00

Sex dolls. Learn it, live it, love it. If all a woman is to me is a pump and dump then I'm good. My needs are covered.

I echo what telandrias said. Life is sooooo good for us now. We just need to adapt to it. In fact I'd rather this life than the life my grandfather lived working 12 hours a day to feed 7 kids.

victor_knight · 2016-12-25T00:54:49+00:00

All the societal constraints which used to keep women in check are now gone so it's back to basic supply and demand. The global demand for attractive women is so incredibly and unbelievably high, each and every one of them could quite literally get two or three multimillionaires to sign on the dotted line and commit to them. Add to that the male biological drive to spread his DNA and you will even have billionaires and hot male actors coming into the mix. Does that give you some idea where the "average man" stands? Good. A woman today can even sell her virginity for 6 or 7 figures on the global market, depending on how attractive she is to the buyer. That's just her virginity, mind you.

dot_dot_beep · 2016-12-25T00:55:17+00:00

I'm in the 20% male territory.

All I need is enough time with most girls, if I want to, and I'll get her.

Take it from me--all it takes is the right guy and relationships go out the door.

Might not be now--she might be a "good girl" now. In 10 years, 20?

The shit I've seen and been through with the opposite sex had made me lose faith in them. Boyfriends don't mean shit if you can make them "feel" right.

If you're handsome, a lot of the work is already done.

Even if you think you're hot shit, there's always going to be someone new to give her the gina tingles when she's tired of you.

I'm watching the TV show "The Night Of" and there's a MGTOW like funeral director in one of the episodes.

He says, "Judges 16" is all you need to know about women.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Judges%2016

OilyB · 2016-12-24T21:25:26+00:00

It's harder to pick up women nowadays (I'm 49) especially if you're a bit shy but not impossible.

The only 2 things that still work is 1. Real love, recognizable by the lack of ego involved, no pride against your partner - both parties recognizing a common goal and each one putting in their own amount of work,

And ego filled love: where the man ditches every potential partner he has an equality or submissive dynamic with. He goes on to search for a woman who's no problem with accepting his leadership and dominance. To some, this sounds tyrannical but irl, it's just this: she adoooores him, and he's glad she's around from time to time.

Imo, the times are over where a guy stands a good chance revering his woman. Nowadays, woman feels like you on your tippy toes, she's gone. It starts to feel really exciting to her when she needs to stand on her toes. As the guy, you then have the moral advantage especially when you mix your dominance with sweet nothings (she feels pampered) and integrity (she feels safe). Now you've reached the balance where chances are smallest she'll cheat. You now have control. But no guarantee. Guarantee you'll never get. Being a strong man also involves getting up after a break up, dusting your clothes and building back up asap. Best starter pack for that: don't get married, if you guys move in, she moves in with you.

embaira · 2016-12-25T00:17:13+00:00

forget about her make up and her beauty and forget about having sex with her - just try to know her as a person. See if she stands out if she has a matching personality to yours and you have a great laugh together.

If you just want to fuck then obviously the opposite.

logophiliac · 2016-12-25T00:23:25+00:00

You're in the wrong sub.

And the word you want is typical, not average. There's no such thing as an "average man".

Jonlife · 2016-12-25T02:51:01+00:00

As guys, looks mean nothing. Yes Brad Pitt can pull bitches. But if he were a janitor or a no name he'd be banging the bench warmers for hotties just like the next guy. Status and power get you attention. All the attention, but it's still attention.

Here's the thing fellas. When you start reading up and doing the research you realize that the line "she's not your girl, it's just your turn" holds true in all scenarios. Your status in life (celebrity, high paying job, good looks with high paying job) dictates what happens, who you converse with, where you live. Location location location.

.... In summation.... Just get a hooker (no strings attached) and wear condoms. If you really must date just know that it's just your turn (we're not meeting virgins anymore unless you're 13 in middle school). Single moms, girls in destructive relationships, divorced bitches, girls who are just ugly and lonely or bat shit crazy, or young and dumb fresh out of high school/college looking for a meal ticket... That's who you'll find on dating apps

0O0O____O0O0 · 2016-12-25T00:26:51+00:00

Most women think they are far and above most men when it comes to smv. But reality eventually sets in, and they will settle for mr average to below average. They want a family and they don't want to be lonely (who does?) Maybe love will flourish but probably they'll divorce you in 10 years because they deserved better than you. The prospects of a relationship are assured. The chances of it lasting are tiny.

nametaken666 · 2016-12-25T04:01:19+00:00

This 5/10 I met was telling me how she goes on dates from OkCupid about 3 times a week because she's 27 and wants kids soon... bitch wtf I'm at least a 6.5/10 guy and slowly improving (through lifting and style sense) and I don't get shit for attention lol. Whatever, I decided I don't need any of that. pretty happy with my freedom

like one of the other posters said though, humans in general are pretty well off compared to old times. I don't need to work all that hard to feed myself and have some time/money left over to have fun

Taguroizumo · 2016-12-25T09:26:42+00:00

As a guy in his 30's that is a fat bastard going bald that doesn't make that much money i usually get women to come over to my place for sex, just need to pick the right woman and tell her what she wants to hear. Like my own mother said in the past, I don't know what these women see in you son, you have nothing to offer them. ( don't get me wrong she is kinda right in a long run kinda of way ) I love sex but I don't mind going thru the barrels of shit to find someone. My longest relationship was a year and a bit and i doubt i will ever beat that record. I apologize for the dear diary style reply

Reptillianrefugee · 2016-12-25T17:30:29+00:00

Unless you have a likable personality you are a fucked. A woman always have looks to back her up but as a guy if you don't have at least a wallet size, or a good personality, or a big dick..then you better start looking foward to spend the next decade up in this forum lol.

HTJ1983 · 2016-12-25T02:36:53+00:00

I'm an older turd. I remember Hot or Not and I posted my photo on there back in 2005 when I was still in the military. I was much better shape, I could run sub 8 minute miles and PT like it was my job. I was around 15% body fat. I got rated 3.5 out of 10. At my best I rated a 3.5 and now that I'm older and in worst shape I can't imagine I would get above a 2. For shits and giggle I created a profile on OkCupid with a current photo and put all my current info. Making over 70k a year, grad degree, own a house etc. As a 33 year old I'd expect the women who have hit the wall to be all over that since they don't have anyone knocking on their door. After 6 months I got no responses.

Morale of the story, don't be ugly or just get a hooker it will be cheaper.

Average man have it rough now a days?

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Title	Average man have it rough now a days?
Author	Ryanbrolol
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Date	December 24, 2016 6:39 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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