Being a beta sucks

Larry_Porus · 2018-08-06T08:30:56+00:00

Learn that we are and always will be truely alone in this world

Yasai101 · 2018-08-06T08:37:01+00:00

I keep hearing similar stories in here. Most don't seem to understand what mgtow is supposed to be. While yes each to his own, but you seem to still apply the same PUA mentality.

The whole point of mgtow philosophy is to find happiness outside of a traditional relationship. To get you validation in life through other means; be it hobbies, money, or career.

It's not a matter of sexual market value or pump and dump, it's simply moving on from the idea of finding a life partner and enjoying this journey in other means.

At least that is how I see it. Truth be told no matter if I were to ever find that proverbial unicorn, the idea of cohabitating or forming a family completely doesn't interest me.

anongogogo · 2018-08-06T08:35:34+00:00

No. Fuck the dating game. Just go straight to escort and rage fuck. Clean deal no hassles. Why should you work for these thots? Have some pride don't lower your self to that level.

Less thot means shit today, she still have at least 50 dicks in her hole minimal.

aBlindGeminiWhisper · 2018-08-06T08:42:27+00:00

You are not short, you are average, I'm 5'8 don't care height. If she honestly says me that I'm short I'd like to say "Thanks" cause she gave me the truth of her thinking type. I'm a boring type person too cause I'm terribly calm. And everything seems me so fake to me.

Most_Insane_F2P · 2018-08-06T10:22:16+00:00

Got to play with the hand your dealt with. (or don't play)

World is unfair. Probably life is harder for men, that's why we can handle a lot.

Listen or read the book 'No More Mr nice guy'

I don't know if the effort is worth the squeeze. Just don't expect relationships are a mathematical equation where we can put in x effort and receive y output.

gadabout13 · 2018-08-06T09:01:36+00:00

Don't give the thot a second thought..find what YOU like and concentrate on that. Being mgtow is about...you. make you happy and don't place weight on traditional relationships. They aren't worth it. Women want atm's and safety nets...don't be that guy.

Tipofthemorni · 2018-08-06T09:27:05+00:00

5'9 is dead centre in the average range. 50% of men will be shorter than you and 50% taller. Most women will be shorter. You are not short.

RadicalAsceticMonk · 2018-08-06T14:20:17+00:00

But honestly, men of MTGOW, how are we supposed to deal with this?

It depends on how much you want to compromise your ideals and freedoms for sexual satisfaction.

Stay single and just pump and dump?

That's the option if your sexual urge is stronger than your moral compass, your risk analysis, and your pride. "Pride", in this case, is not necessarily a good thing.

Find a girl who is less thot than the rest?

That's the option if you're still deluded about the female nature in general. There's no "less thot", only less opportunities in life to be a thot. You can try and find a woman like that, but be aware: the female nature is chameleonic, and the "less thot" of today is the ultra thot of tomorrow.

Keep grinding so we can attract 8s eventually?

That's the option if you really have no self-respect, no self-preservation instinct, and is willing to piss away resources just for a better-than-average pussy (that was beaten to roast beef by Chad years prior). The only way for you to get a 8+ woman is by providing money, status, safety, and generally being the perfect manservant - and without any claims of exclusivity, since such a woman will be only satisfied on a primal, biological level by Chad cock. If you don't mind sharing the thot and footing the bill, then sure, go ahead.

So what to do?

You have your PhD in physics, don't you? Put it to a good use. Help to unlock the secrets of the Cosmos. We, as a species, are so much bigger than all of this alpha/beta bullshit that only exists because of women. There's so much to be learned and done, and so little time in this existence to do so. Let them rot in their constant schizophrenic mental conflict between "tingles" and "feeling safe", their eternal struggle between feeling "empowered" and "depressed as fuck". Their answer to solitude is herding cats; ours, is to delve in the secrets of reality itself.

ghost5991 · 2018-08-06T09:11:21+00:00

Use the high cash beta to your advantage. Become a sugar daddy that fucks these 8 and 9 cum in them and don’t pay them .

Boooom free advise use your flaws to lure them in cream pie and leave or cum on their face . They wanna use you for your money use them for their looks post pictures of you with hot chicks on your social media become a playboy and girl will generally find you interesting because they see you with attractive females . Social proof is actually a really good way to not get laid but for people to generally find you interesting

2018-08-06T10:38:51+00:00

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pushkar_chaudhari · 2018-08-06T09:43:00+00:00

On another social media platforms, one user Wrote that her girlfriend left her during her MTech(masters) as he wasn't selected in college campus. After few years, when she came to know that he got qualified for enterance in prestigious IISc Banglore for Phd , she texted him many times but he never replied. Back few years ago a boy was ditched by his girlfriend bcoz he couldn't qualify for IIT and was beaten by her current boyfriend bcoz of being her ex. She started messaging him to meet her.

Women are really very disgusting b*tches

T0000009 · 2018-08-06T10:53:42+00:00

What you're doing wrong in conveying your NEED FOR HER weather it's verbal, or nonverbal. Something about your presence and attitude says "please pick me" when it needs to say "get lost whore" weather it's how you stand, talk, or dress there is something those cunt are picking up on that you are not aware of.

That's the thing about not being a natural/trained leader.... People can just tell you're not the one in charge.

Afab67 · 2018-08-06T15:03:18+00:00

Sounds like you still want to be in a relationship. You probably don't want MGTOW advice at this point. You might want to check out the Red Pill subreddit as a lot of PUA discussions take place there. As a MGTOW, I'm not interested anymore. Even in a 10/10. There's is simply too much hassle, stress, and unpleasantness involved with women. They are not worth the trouble.

memnite404 · 2018-08-06T13:50:37+00:00

5'7. A curse and I suppose a blessing. Less temptation = less drama.

Sol_Install · 2018-08-06T15:06:50+00:00

Ah, see you understand the dilema. You want the be the guy women desire but you are not. Through comparison and the tales of others you eventually realize which man you are. Yes, I too realized what you did. I honestly find it fucking insulting. That we are expected to earn our worth only to benefit women who would never speak to us otherwise. Most men are Betas. Some more whipped than others. But this is the divide. As a man who has reached your conclusion, this is what you are up against.

You will be unable to have a relationship because of this. If any women expresses interest in you in any other way but sexually, you're screwed. If you try to go into a relationship, they will confirm what you know now. There is no way to deal with this. It is unacceptable. If you try to grind to get 8's, you're fucked. Because unless they are actually attracted to you, you are more likely to be called a creep/pedo, at risk for all sorts of accusations, and so on. Which means in a marriage, you get to risk everything you worked for as well as run the risk of her threatening you. They will try to give you sex easily. Why? In hopes of getting pregnant to tie you down.

Unlike me however, it seems you want a relationship. I do not. I am too disgusted with this to even bother. So what did I do? I accepted it. I have no interest in pursuing women.

Darkmeetboy · 2018-08-06T09:36:26+00:00

You were born alone and so you shall die alone, embrace it or efface it. Your choice...

TheJoestarDescendant · 2018-08-06T13:56:50+00:00

Just... don't date.

UnhappyAndAnxious · 2018-08-06T10:08:20+00:00

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Oohhthehumanity · 2018-08-06T14:03:57+00:00

I understand where you have been and how you feel but you have got to stop defining yourself by the amount and the "quality" of women you are able to attract.

You are "disappointed" in women for not showing interest in you when you were just studying and playing video games but in return I have to ask you are you showing interest in that flat, scrawny girl with braces that is busy with her pony all the time but in 10 years time when she grows into her body might be the next supermodel? Probably not. I am not judging you but I am trying to make clear that biology and even more clearly attraction is what it is. Dick is easy to get for most women in their late teens or early twenties so ask yourself why would they invest in a short guy that shared little to no field of interest with them at that time and had little resources to make things interesting. In current society there wasn't......and the sooner you accept that harsh truth and the sooner you leave that anger behind you the better.

On the flip side. You have the position of power now. You don't have to wine, dine and serve Chad's leftovers. You have the knowledge, resources and life experience to find your own path and create your own happiness. If Chad's ex wants to come along for the ride and you think you can get some usefull mileage out of her let her but make damn sure you keep being the one behind the steering wheel and never forget AWALT (All Women Are Like That).

Personally after doing my part of squeezing I no longer think the juice is worht the squeeze but you don't have to take my word for it and try to reach your own conclusion. Best of luck!

2018-08-06T15:21:06+00:00

Pump and Dump.

Pump. And. Dump.

potatorockstar · 2018-08-06T16:02:43+00:00

you are not a beta. you are a highly educated man that worked hard to accomplish his goals. those women with such superficial psyches shouldnt bother you in the first place. is like you worry if the janitor will approve your doctoral thesis. their opinion has less gravity than that of the janitor. although gravity is a bit bogus concept mr physicist (wink wink).

feoen · 2018-08-06T18:31:05+00:00

Fuck that.

I'm like you. I have my PhD and I own a house. I'm relatively wealthy for my age (late 20s). I'm also short at 5'5.

I don't even get second glances from women. I am that much of a beta. I might have all the resources, but my genes are so bad women want nothing to do with me.

And it's a blessing. Women will suck you dry. Your research will suffer.

Create your kingdom. Build your castle and dig a moat. You don't need women.

KrayKrayBlack · 2018-08-06T15:09:19+00:00

Its your mental state thats the problem.

Trust me once you get past that and not give a fuck about anything its easy. But finding out how you get to this mental state is the hard part. Especially if you got a serious job

The easy part is you gotta go gym though and reduce the body fat

ghost5991 · 2018-08-06T15:25:07+00:00

That’s for him to decide how much truth he wants to give . I been doing this for 4 years and it’s worked out . I don’t settle in one place and her give my real name . I don’t even have a social media account

ThatOneTy · 2018-08-06T15:38:17+00:00

No women are worth it.

WMOWin2016 · 2018-08-06T15:57:28+00:00

Porn, dude, porn! It's like having a new girlfriend every day. Try FKK Oase if you want to get rid of the thirst first.

Solitude + weed + porn + video games = joy.

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2018-08-06T16:44:31+00:00

Stay single. Pump and Dump if you must just be aware it is still risky. Really it is up to you on what you want to do , but the idea behind MGTOW is you don't worry about having a traditional relationship, to me I love being MGTOW because I don't even think twice about thots, even if they are a 10, sure I will look, but when I see a 10 now all I can think is "I bet she is a fuck ton of trouble that I don't need or want."

AFSGT01 · 2018-08-06T16:51:22+00:00

Stay on your purpose Pump and dump That's it

samothrace22 · 2018-08-06T18:16:32+00:00

It's perfectly normal to want to share your life with someone- many humans share this emotion. I would just stay open and see if the right one comes along and not worry if they're a 5 or an 8 but of course make sure they're not in it for your successful job. Maybe don't accept every date offer you get and instead talk to them for a bit to see if you can keep up a convo

shadow1118 · 2018-08-06T18:37:14+00:00

Bro are you serious? Your complaining that you finally have a good job and money and girls are attracted to you now and your mad they didn't show you attention before? What you need to do is to date multiple girls, let them not know about each other and keep going on dates. Bring one a cruise, another for dinner that night, idk but just keep different girls. If they ask about getting married , lie and say yes one day but not until we know each other longer and say 5 years. Then ideally you do this throughout your 30s as the girls will age too, and once the girls are to old, switch to a younger girl. This in turn is the best because the woman has now wasted her 30s fucking with you and is closing to 40 childless single and alone, this is the power you have in your prime. The female equivalent is the girl ignoring all the beta's in college while you study your fucking ass off and going to fuck chads and cheating on all the guys shes been in relationships when she was younger that she was only using. You have the power now its your choice to use it or not. I know when I finally get myself to your situation Im going to be breaking so many hearts.

Solstus22 · 2018-08-06T18:54:29+00:00

Hey, if they fuck the ones they want to fuck, then by that logic, they lose the right to dictate to the people they don't fuckable who and what they should pursue. Don't like the bottom 80% of men? Then don't complain if sexbots and prostitutes become popular over women.

I wouldn't play a game where its rigged to lose no matter what you do and no matter how much you cheat (I find it justifiable because it was unfair in the first place)

crecentfresh · 2018-08-06T14:11:34+00:00

Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me.

Title	Being a beta sucks
Author	sgsblue
Upvotes	53
Comments	74
Date	August 6, 2018 8:16 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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