This is gonna sound really lame I know (but I think I need an outside perspective)....
I have 2 guys I speak to daily, both of which I've slept with before but they both understand and would never ever push for sex (it's been years since I was with either of them). Both of them I've found attractive in very short bursts when they have done something impressive, but they are too submissive and honestly, not physically attractive. I have spent a lot of years coming to terms with my low self esteem issues as a reason for sleeping with or dating guys that I barely like or respect, and I believe I am still keeping them around just for validation. It's been a year since I slept with or dated anyone and I do feel like I am working to improve myself. I really appreciate the things that my 2 friends can teach me but sometimes I can't help but feel annoyed by them and at myself when I think they might be hoping for a relationship. Sometimes I am just disgusted by them when they seem to be overly agreeable or (I think) trying to flirt by be overly complimentary. But then, they are both providing me with attention and advice when I am in my low moments, as well as some helpful career advice.
Does it diminish my chances of meeting someone by hanging out with these two?
If so should I stay loyal and be a good friend in return?
What if I find a relationship - do I get rid of them then out of respect for my new partner?
edit: Thank you for the advice everyone. When considering some of your answers it's pretty clear what I need to do if I am to start better respecting myself and the people I call friend. Likewise, I need to ditch the ex lays/current friends if I'm going to be committed to a partner.
Edit2: just taking stock of the lessons for me here:
- good men value women with integrity (ones who don't use people but have worthy values)
- in a relationship the value of shared goals > value of activites/things
- in any relationship: value of shared activities is dependant on shared goals
- because beta orbiters do not share my vision/goals for the "friendship" this is actively working against both of us (even if I think I'm being kind or loyal)
-being friends with ex sex partners is generally detrimental to new romantic relationships
- platonic friendships = no sex ever and shared goal of no sex ever
- friendship ~= dominating or holding power over the other-
-being kind for the sake of seeing the value of kindness = quality value to hold
Pupose of practising kindness = positive outlook, increased energy for relationships, increased emotional security
-friendship requires shared goals (resulting from quality like values) + resulting actions of shared goals
[–]GregHonda22 points23 points24 points (12 children) | Copy Link
Just knowing that there's a sub Reddit of Red Pill Women, using our terms and apparently understanding our philosophy, makes me feel Violated!!
[–]TheObelisk13 points14 points15 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Well it's odd. They fully understand the whole view of their shitty manipulative behavior, but they're embracing it? Using red pill terms to better describe the bad behavior we're spotlighting? Just weird.
[–]FreshNothingBurger9 points [recovered] | Copy Link
Nothing is weird about that, it's just another male space to invade.
[–]Marque012 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You ever try to shame a smoker? They'll embrace that too :)
[–]Docbear649 points10 points11 points (4 children) | Copy Link
It was an offshoot of the redpill , if the Redpill was about men becoming better men then Red Pill Women is about how women capture those men working to become better .
If MGTOW becomes pussified ( I hope it never does but I know men and all it takes is one wrong man to poison everything this sub is today) I wouldn't be surprised to hear about the rise of MGTOW wives ...... we live in fucking clown world so I know it sounds impossible but never say never .
[–]padpump5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Women were always looking for the “better” men.
[–]Thermotastic2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
How about they better themselves and bring more to the table than preowned pussy and unclaimed baggage.
[–]FutureSquall1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It won’t be pussified. It will be vilified and attacked relentlessly.
[–]Docbear641 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I can live with the sub being attacked. It means we're speaking uncomfortable truths in a society in love with comfortable lies . This sub becoming yet another coddling playground for women would disappoint me greatly though.
[–]Thermotastic1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
There is an attempt. But to what end? Is she only bettering herself to raise her smv and get a class promotion?
[–]Goshtow11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
NAWALT school, becoming a better chameleon.
[–]Fogato 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well it's actually a good post, the girl is 100% what mgtow profess: a woman that uses men for validation, she is into cock carousel, keep beta around, she considers unattractive men that are too agreeable and so on.
[–]theoracleofosiris0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A redpill woman with an ncount more than 0 is an oxymoron