Can anyone refute this?

Talkytalktalk · 2017-01-11T20:03:03+00:00

You're right in a sense.most of my relationships have been characterized by some form of abuse.

I have lowered my expectations of people and I'm let down a lot less often now.

geocitiesuser · 2017-01-11T20:29:54+00:00

Physical pain? Being enslaved? Having your face mauled off by a bear? Starving? Really?

2017-01-11T22:23:14+00:00

let go

Buddhism's idea of the suffering caused by our attachments to things might be some interesting research for you. Also - Stoic denial (or the usefulness of 'undesirable' emotion).

It's completely possible - just make sure you are still processing these emotions somehow or they will come back and manifest in times of weakness.

HandyManDan90 · 2017-01-11T19:37:19+00:00

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Migtaosammich · 2017-01-11T22:49:16+00:00

C'mon man. I love that you're woke, but this is just absurdly overly-simplistic.

Refutations to your point that acceptance of the mundanity of family, love, children, marriage, friendship and relationships, will result in a life free from negative emotions, as requested, and in no particular order:

Joblessness
Homelessness
Toothache
Debilitating physical injury
losing pitcher in game 7 World Series
ID theft resulting in loss of savings
Investment opportunity that resulted in loss of savings
House destroyed by hurricane
Motorcycle stolen
The mere acceptance of your premise, e.g. Women will never love you
All-in, lose to an inside straight on the river
Gotta put Rover down tomorrow

I could go on. Your premise can simply be boiled down to one word: "relationships." And you are challenging the entire user-base to come up with reasons that the dismissal of one simple facet of the human experience-relationships-is to be able to dismiss all negative emotions? C'mon, man. We are more fascinating creatures than that.

And that's not even getting into how hard I could refute the non-existence of the negative emotions of my brother dying, my children getting hurt, or the pain of watching a friend get married to some twat. Because that would topple your argument from the offing.

You may need to re-word some things before your argument is iron-clad, as you seem to be claiming.

lonewolf-chicago · 2017-01-12T01:16:20+00:00

All upset is created by attachment to expectations

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2017-01-12T06:38:27+00:00

Many other things beyond social relationships can cause negative emotions. Debt, injury, aging, lack of exercise, just off the top of my head. Wtf kind of question is this?

Three-Legged-Fox · 2017-01-11T19:42:42+00:00

Okay I'll give it a go.

You let go of all of those things. Then you are falsely accused of murder and convicted. I'm guessing you'd feel rage, despair, sorrow, depression and a whole host of other negative emotions.

Also if you are paralyzed by a car wreck. Diagnosed with terminal cancer. Etc.

I'm not sure what you are getting at or why you'd want to give up on friendship but I hope I was a help.

Yon--Yonson · 2017-01-11T19:59:23+00:00

So you're saying that if love didn't exist, you'd never have to be unhappy?

Title	Can anyone refute this?
Author	HandyManDan90
Upvotes	4
Comments	27
Date	January 11, 2017 7:30 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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