Contradictory ideals

CiceroVoltaire · 2019-06-20T20:16:51+00:00

I need feminism to cause the collapse of modern civilization for anarchy, war, destruction, death, famine, disease, devastation, slavery and a new dark age and the return of hard patriarchy.

Marxism and globalism aren't going to be enough to do it!

user_miki · 2019-06-20T20:55:53+00:00

I think you are confused. We acknowledged the fact that feminism helped men to discover that they were disposable and exploited by many generations.That was an unintended consequence of feminism.And feminism now is helping in making more MGTOW men also unintended from their part. Women red pilled men faster then men did themselves.That doesn't mean we embraced or support feminist ideology.We support the outcome reflected on more men waking up facing the reality and the world approaching faster to a halt.

SekaiNoHeipo · 2019-06-20T20:18:06+00:00

feminism is the root cause of the evolution of MGTOW.

Says who? MGTOW is for those who seek freedom, not those who run away from shitty women. AWALT

swejap · 2019-06-20T20:13:10+00:00

Feminists want men to go their own way , as a way of bringing down the patriarchy.

nerves-of-steel · 2019-06-20T20:36:21+00:00

I think you are misinterpreting what many MGTOW mean by "supporting" or "needing" feminism. We don't really support or need a misandrist movement which wants to enslave us, we are just glad that feminism unintentionally exposed women's real nature along with the double standards, hypocrisies and other insane beliefs that they believe in.

Feminism lifted the veil that surrounded women for a long time and exposed their true intention, which is superiority rather than equality.

DangZagnut · 2019-06-20T21:24:10+00:00

Feminism, despite being a religious hate cult filled with toxicity throughout its 150 year career, is just a political group just like MRA.

MGTOW is a lifestyle choice or personal philosophy.

You might as well ask if a Buddhist can be a feminist. You can be whatever stupid thing you want to be that doesn't interfere with your philosophy or lifestyle choice.

OatsGYOW · 2019-06-20T21:25:43+00:00

Are you talking about abortion?

I think it is a disease on society and morally bankrupt, but as a human I am much more interested in keeping the government the fuck away from my body, and heavily support that right for both women and men.

One of my worst fears is having my freedom taken from me. Prison, institutionalized, forced vaccinations, forced labor(such as through alimony or child support), or having my organs or blood taken against my will.

Men are disposable. Human rights are our bastion. Women dont need them, but we sure as fuck do.

AeternusDoleo · 2019-06-20T23:06:23+00:00

Might want to define "feminism" before you throw a broad term. There's a few options:

- Suffrage / right to vote. This caused women to start entering the political debate while not having the responsibilities of suffering the consequences of their decisions initially. IE the male only draft that had to be detached from the right to vote. Not entirely opposed to it if the burdens of society were also placed on the shoulders of both genders. But that's an if that's still not handled.

- Equality of opportunity / labor rights. This part I can actually get behind, if it is indeed equality of opportunity. IE everyone, regardless of gender, having the right to enter the workforce and educational system BUT the playing field is kept level, and we have a straight meritocracy. So none of this affirmative action bullcrap we see today (which is essentially gender discrimination with a fluffy bow on top of it).

- Equality of outcome / intersectionalism. The current dominant flavor, and frankly, one that has fueled nearly everything wrong with society today. A lack of resistance to mass migration (or as I like to call it, unarmed invasions), destruction of merit-based selection in favor of identity-based selection, science denial in favor of political correctness, mass censorship of critical voices. It will take another decade before the first serious consequences start to roll out - a less capable workforce (due to no meritocracy in the educational system and workforce), the start of demographic collapse due to lack of family formation, and severe unhappiness of those who establish themselves in a career, then go fish for partners that will not be there.

It's the intersectional madness that's driving men to take a look at the situation, shake their head, and decide "I'm out" in ever greater numbers. That's what's driving the surge, and it may make our way of life go mainstream. And when it does, it will be interesting - because the intersectionalists primary weapon, shame, does not work on those who go their own way. Self validation immunizes men against it.

Title	Contradictory ideals
Author	lnot
Upvotes	2
Comments	10
Date	June 20, 2019 8:10 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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