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Deconstructing Incel Masochism

ss_camaro

June 6, 2018

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Title	Deconstructing Incel Masochism
Author	ss_camaro
Upvotes	47
Comments	31
Date	June 6, 2018 7:46 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/8oys4m/deconstructing_incel_masochism/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/deconstructing-incel-masochism.547013 https://theredarchive.com/post/547013

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Underlying feminism is gynocentrism, which can't really be solved unless our biology and societal structure gets entirely rewritten. It's why feminism is possible but 'meninism' isn't; the world doesn't revolve that way. Political activism won't do anything - all of the efforts of MRAs over several decades has accomplished exactly zero, and they've had careers ruined and bodies hurt over it.

What might solve the issue is technology and education. Gynocentrism stems from women's biological bottlenecking of sex, and thus reproduction. Once artificial wombs become abundant, and once the world is more aware of such things as overpopulation and moral philosophy, we could expect women's innate value to drop.

Although, I suspect that gynocentrism is so deeply engrained that even that would not help. The biological importance of reproduction has been minimal since we stepped off the Savannah - information, technology, civilization - things that men build, are far more important to humanity, yet we still get neglected and crucified while women remain pedestalized.

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"Incels have mental issues and are ready to kill women"

Lie and pathetic, if all it takes to dismantle an entire group, is one person acting out, then it doesn't take much to derail anyone does it.

If someone kills and brands themselves conservative or liberal (as many have) does that mean "all liberals / conservatives are ready to kill"?

No it means an individual killed. That one guy who did that was not the king of the incels, he was just one guy.

That YouTube shooter than branded herself a feminist was not queen of the feminists either.

Suicide bombers are not kings / queens of the Muslims, the Catholics who bomb abortion clinics are not kings / queens of the Catholics, the columbine shooters were not kings of the atheists.

Do not judge an entire group based on the actions of some individuals.

I don't agree with incels on many things, but that's not the point. The point is freedom of speech. As soon as they start taking away freedom of speech from one group, there is nothing stopping them from taking it away from another group.

I'm not saying that we should support the incel mentality (not too sure what that even is, as it varies from individual to individual) but we should be supporting theirs and everyone else's right to freedom of speech, as well as their right to be judged as individuals not as a label.

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